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Imagine being around Pepa while giving birth (and to a lesser extent while pregnant).
That must have been some seriously fucked up weather...
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THIS.
I’d just like to add that now I don’t think Wanda did anything. After watching WV, I swore she’d be the one causing the Multiverse. Now that we’ve seen the Loki finale...I think when we see her hear her boys is the exact moment the multiverse splits free.
Loki S1 Finale
SPOILERS….TURN BACK RN I SWEAR TO GOD….LIKE WE AIN’T EVEN KIDDING HERE OKAY!
y’all turn back yet…nah…okay cool your loss.
So…Sylkie. 1. Nobody give anyone hate for this. Like the kiss made narrative sense, Sylvie initiated it and then backstabbed the man. Like….I know its supposed to be Sylkie as a romantic pairing, like it was heavily hinted. But you know what …I’m gonna ignore that because Loki being unable to love and then believing that the only person who would love him is himself (self love but no) as the endgame pair is idiotic. Loki needs to trust in his love and work up from the fuckery Sylvie left. So the kiss makes narrative sense, to build up to Loki loving people that aren’t mirrors of him.
2. My friends….Loki has such HUGE LEAPS and BOUNDS in character development. Man went all the way from kneel before me to I don’t want a throne. And It made complete sense as a viewer. I can’t even be that mad at teh show for finale pain and else because they actually have pretty great character development and pitfalls that make 100% sense because when has anything worked out for Loki ever.
3. Also the Miss Minutes jumpscare. Oh sweet lord I dropped my shit. My mum was scared for me.
3. Season 1 finale has a very good tie in to MoM and everything else. Time works weirdly in the TVA so we can’t be too sure of how much time has passed and where Loki falls (between Wandavision, Far from home, FATWS etc.) But I’m fairly certain with Spiderman No way home or Multiverse of Madness will straighten and clear that confusion. Season 2 is also gonna be interesting with the cliffhanger. Also let’s not act like Marvel hasn’t done infuriating cliffhangers. Exhibit A: Infinity War. One year man. One whole year.
All in all I feel INFINITE amounts of pity for Dr Strange. My man becomes a mentor to Peter Parker walking disaster teenager, deal with Time Stone fuckery, whatever the fuck Wanda has just done along with Wanda and Loki both to repair a timeline fucked up by Loki’s. Pray for him.
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This episode not only healed my wounds from last week, it may also be one of the very best things I've ever seen. I already rewatched it instantly after finishing it for the first time and will probably do so for the next few months (who am I kidding this will probably be my number one source of comfort til I die). I cried through the whole thing like a baby because I am just so happy. There are way too many lovely details to list them all but I think you know which ones I mean... This character is so unbelievable close to my heart I have no words to describe how much his self acceptance and self love mean to me. Damn I'm crying even more than I did whenever he died. This series is what I always wished for and I am just so so so thankful for Tom!Loki and the amount of content we are getting.
This is what I meant when I said he deserved better. This shit right here is what I needed.
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OMG LOKIIIIII!!!!
Marvel what are you planning for us??!
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Ep.5 Loki spoilers
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THIS SCENE!!!!
His reactions were epic!!! 🤣
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//Loki episode 5 spoilers!
Did Loki change because he finally realized how annoying he usually is to other people?
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I don't care right now about all endless flaws of Loki Show
just
just pls Marvel take this Loki who Now Understands and put him in Thor-4/5/6/n 🙏
brothers need each other 🥺
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i love how during the whole battle between the loki variants our loki realizes how frickin annoying he is
like if you look at him in those scenes he's so annoyed at all the other versions of him
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Look, it’s been a very, very, very trying past few days. Months? I don’t even know how long it’s been since New York. All I know is, I got pruned and I woke up here, and now I’m surrounded by Variants of myself, plus an alligator, which I’m heartbroken to report I didn’t even find all that strange!
LOKI (2021) | Episode 5 - Journey Into Mystery
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We can be heroes
This episode has proven that Loki has always been his own worst enemy. We see that even at the end of the universe Lokis can escape Alioth but they still keep betraying each other. Eventually they just destroy all they built just to feel like they are the superior one. It's always "why are you the king" and "I should be a one". We can see how much show Loki changed in how little time he has for it. He has to go find Sylvie and help her realise her plan.
She is the one who made him realise this is not all Lokis are destined to be. Thor said to the main MCU Loki they can change and be something more. And Mobius said they can be even someone good. But she is a walking proof of it.
A lot was said about dealing with the post-colonialism in Thor 3 and Asgardians facing their past but I haven't seen much about how Loki is the product of it's propaganda. He was told his whole life the Jotuns are evil monsters and then he learns not only that he is one but that even they didn't want him. The internalised hate and their rejection just makes him hate them more.
And it makes him want the approval of the Asgardians - the dominant civilisation - even more (he's kind of a reverse of Moses). He wants to be the best of them. And he despises all the ones they consider lesser even more than they do (including humans). So conquering humans is in a way an ultimate Asgardian move on his part. It's easier for Thor to let go of this because Thor is Asgardian no matter what but who is Loki if he doesn't observe the traditions?
Combined with feeling inferior because Thor was walking ideal of Asgardian and Odin's disappointment it all make him act out and finally boil over into full evil. Hurting people and destroying all the relationships until he was left with nothing and he told himself he liked it.
Helping Thor destroy Asgard and still being accepted as one of it's people is part of letting go of the most toxic part of that culture. Something Hela wasn't able to do but Loki could because he realised what really mattered was the people. Or at least his brother. That at least his family always thought he was one of them. They were just as bad at showing it as he was at accepting it.
He was raised primed for self-hatred but his refusal to accept any help made him narcissist who took all his frustrations on others. Show Loki already understood that all it got him was loosing his family and his people. He can't take that back but he can do better from now on and do it right for Sylvie.
Sylvie was raised different. She was told she was adopted. She didn't have the self hatred they grew up with and wanted to be a Valkyrie. I've seen people saying that her Nexus event was that she was set to become a hero and this episode made me almost certain that it was.
I was to say it last week but the post was already too long (as this is getting) and I forgot but like Old Loki says - the Loki's can turn good but TVA enforces their death then. The main MCU Loki never had a chance to fully realise this freedom once he bettered himself Thanos took him out. Sylvie was the one who got away and she became different.
I said I was pretty sure that the Nexus event Sylvie and Loki created wasn't about falling in love and this episode has pretty much confirmed that. It was show Loki believing a Loki can be a hero. And making Sylvie believe herself to be one. They basically supported each other into becoming more and better and all that Loki are not supposed to be and what TVA has been always stopping them from becoming.
I've seen people complaining that Loki is a sidekick in his own show but that is the point. He is the viewpoint character but Sylvie is the hero - she has the drive, the purpose and the ideas how to achieve it. Loki is there to help her achieve it so she doesn't do it alone. This is the whole point and the lesson he had to learn. Supporting someone in saving the world is also a glorious purpose.
This is how main MCU Loki has found his redemption - helping his brother save the day and then saving him from Thanos. I said last week I think Sylvie is an expy of Thor and this support in saving the universe and we see this mirroring in this choice again. (I also said Mobius is the - much better - expy of Odin and nothing shows how much this Loki has grown than Mobius joking that Sylvie is his favourite one and Loki not caring - he still supports them both). And the version of Loki who hid behind another illusion to survive Thanos has done it again in another big sacrifice.
I like how in the final scene when they go to face Alioth Loki stand behind Sylvie. And then makes a decision to use himself as a bait so she can achieve her goal. And then run to stand in front of her when Alioth attacks. All this is pure hero stuff. It's leaving behind the selfish glory for the real glorious purpose. So it matters when Sylvie grabs his hand so they stand together equal and share the magic to win this battle. Because heroes work together for that purpose. The dictators always have to look for a knife in the back. But heroes don't stand alone. And then can be more than one.
I said it last week and I say it again. The Lokis are not destined to be evil. Their powers are coded that way but we see both Old Loki and Sylvie use their magic to save the day. Even the laugh and the glorious purpose take another meaning when it's about saving others not own glory. The heroism is in choice not in destiny. And taking away choice is what makes TVA evil.
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Watching Sylkie and Lokius stans fight is like watching Yenralt and Geraskier stans fight. THEY HAVE TWO HANDS YA’LL!
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pro-sylkie or anti-sylkie or whatever, you have to admit
they have chemistry
they have great chemistry
it doesn't matter if you interpret it as romantic or platonic, it's there and it's fantastic
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A Very Loki Affair - Our Chat with Tom Hiddleston
Let’s not pretend that the Avenger’s most persistent villain and antihero isn’t the best character in the Marvel universe. Tom Hiddleston has had the great fortune of being able to play a comedic relief, while being taken absolutely seriously. While his face has become synonymous with Loki, he isn’t being typecast anytime soon.
He debuted in the movies in 2007 with Unrelated, and became a household name just four years later in 2011 when he landed his role as Loki in the first Thor movie. While Disney has been paying his bills for the past decade, he’s also found time to star in other such films like Crimson Peak and Kong: Skull Island. In 2016, he starred and was an executive producer in The Night Manager, for which he scored his first Golden Globe for best actor in a Miniseries or Television Film.
Disney knows a good thing when they see it, and now Loki has his own show. We had a chat with Hiddleston about what it takes to maintain a character for so long, how to remain faithful to the role, and what we should expect from the series.
What was your reaction when you were approached about doing a “Loki” series?
It was so exciting. I remember after Infinity War was released having a conversation with everybody at Marvel Studios. And we just put our heads together and thought, right, I’ve done six movies as Loki. And those movies really are the Thor saga. They’re all about Loki’s connection to Thor, his connection with his family. Where do we go now? What have we not done? What’s new? What’s original?
📷Photo by Ricky Middlesworth Chuck Zlotnick
And that was the most inspiring conversation. I remember leaving it thinking, this is going to be very, very new because the character has got so much breadth and so much depth. That’s been the gift to me as an actor. Loki is almost this endlessly fascinating box of tricks where the moment you think you know him, he reveals something else.
You’ve been playing Loki for years, but this is the first time he’s at the centre of the story. What do you want fans to learn about him?
I hope the fans feel that the things they love about Marvel and the things they love about Loki are all there. That we’ve created something bright, colorful and spectacular, which contains light and shade, depth and relief. We’ve created interesting characters and new worlds where people come up against physical and emotional challenges, which test them. And they’re forced to overcome and make the right choices.
For anyone out there who loves Loki, this is the guy you know: he’s still the god of mischief. But this takes him to another level. I hope the fans and the audience feel the same excitement, the same passion and the same sense of possibility that we all felt when we were making it. It’s been a really unique experience. In the creative mix, there has been so much passion and so much energy. I hope fans can feel that energy and feel excited and inspired about where we go next.
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What will it take for Loki to feel like he’s no longer in Thor’s shadow?
Loki needs to evolve. The cycle was: Loki is trusted, he betrays, he becomes a villain, he learns to trust again, he’s betrayed, he becomes trusting again, he can be trusted again, then he betrays or feels betrayed. It’s just this endless cycle of trust and betrayal and resistance. And the character is essentially singing the same song over and over and over again.
He’s trapped on a wheel of repetition, a compulsion to repeat the same damage, the same story. And we are breaking that record. We’re releasing him from that trap.
In this story, we’re showing that he can change, that he can grow. And what if the experience of that, and the journey he goes on, actually changes something internal where he can potentially become someone else, or begin from a place of understanding that, if you know who you are, then who you choose to be is a different thing.
What does the TVA want with Loki, anyway?
If you have done something to alter the course of history, or alter the course of the future, according to the TVA, you get pulled into their headquarters and processed as a time criminal. You could literally have done anything.
The TVA is an organisation that orders and polices the passage of time. They have predetermined what happens in the past, the present, and the future, in a straight line. And if you do anything that deviates from that, or creates an alternate branch of reality, you get hauled into the TVA and charged with crimes against the timeline, and you’re in a time prison basically.
📷Photo by Chuck Zlotnick Ricky Middlesworth
It will come as a surprise to no one that Loki is one of those time criminals. He has pushed the boat out. He’s broken too many of his restrictions.
What was it like to work with Owen Wilson?
Owen has a natural intelligence and a natural curiosity about the world, which is very unique to him. And he brings it all into his character, Mobius. Mobius can be light and bright, fun and curious, but he can also be intense.
I loved that Owen wanted to change his look as well – helping to create the world of the TVA and Mobius’s history within it. I think audiences have never seen Owen like this. What Owen has done in bringing Mobius to life is brilliant: he’s intelligent, compassionate, fun and original.
I’ve loved working with him. He’s such a broad man of such a range of tastes and talents. We connected really early on. And then together, I hope we’ve created something really interesting.
What new insights did Kate Herron add to your character?
Kate really defends these characters and has created a world where Loki and the other characters all feel things very intensely, and the stakes for them are very high.
The centre of her idea is that the show is about self-knowledge, and that Loki and his friends become more aware of themselves. And through that soulful journey, are able to change, and that actual change starts with acknowledging who you are, acknowledging your mistakes, acknowledging your past and making peace with that. And then you can actually move forward. And with a character like Loki, those themes are a bit extraordinary.
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Tonally, how would you describe the “Loki” series?
We all really wanted the tone of the show to represent the best of Loki’s character. I think Loki’s character has this extraordinary range that Loki can be fun, light hearted and witty. He’s always got a good line: he’s the god of mischief, after all. So, we wanted the show to be imbued with mischief, a sense of fun and a sense of momentum. But we also know that Loki has this very sensitive, damaged, broken heart with an enormous capacity to feel – to feel emotion on the biggest scale. And to go to some quite profound places that explore some of the deepest experiences of being alive that are about loneliness and sadness and anger and grief and loss.
And so, we wanted the tone of the whole show to have all of it, to have that sense of fun, to have that sense of mischief. And to have that sense of emotional depth and emotional breadth that hopefully could be contained in this epic story, which starts from the things that people are familiar with.
After all these years, what makes Loki such a fun character to continue to explore?
I’ve found having played Loki for such a long time and having had the privilege of inhabiting him at the outset, I’ve always felt an affection for him and for his vulnerability.
But I’ve been aware, through the course of my experience in the Marvel Studios’ movies in the first ten years that Loki has a role to play, and that, as Loki, I had to play the villain. Then I had to play the antihero. And this time around is the first chance, perhaps for a while, that I’ve had to see if we can really break the mold and change him, and retain all the best aspects of him.
But, as I’ve said, try to get underneath all of his defences: the defence of his charisma, the defence of his keeping people at arm’s length. And I think that that is a really interesting kernel of an idea inside the story. Can Loki ever change? Is Loki capable of change? If he does change, will other people allow him to change? Can Loki get out of his own way? Can Loki make different choices? And if he does make those choices, where does he go next?
So, it’s been really exciting to find a way of striking the balance between respecting what’s come before and inventing something new.
Loki is streaming now on Disney+.
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