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stagbeetleboy · 3 days
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I should add a butterfly
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Look I really like Anakin, but I also don't think that Palpatine had to work too hard to get him to fall.
Palpatine magnified Anakin's frustration with/distrust in the Jedi, but that's just it. He only worked with what was already there.
Anakin was just like that™. He wasn't an inherently *evil* person, and I think he is very good at heart, but he had massively obvious egotistical and selfish tendencies.
Anakin's whole thing was that he wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
He was understandably traumatised by his life as a slave, but he also kind of just refused to try and accept or understand the Jedi's teachings on attachment and emotional regulation. And accepted what Palpatine said because it suited him more.
The Council were 100% right to tell Qui-Gon that this kid was both too old and that his emotions were all over the place (and more than expected for even a kid like him. I absolutely think Anakin would have slaughtered the Tusken Raiders without any kind of external dark side influence in his life).
He didn't have to stay and be a Jedi once he fell in love with Padmé. Obi-Wan would still have been his friend/brother figure. And Anakin wouldn't have fallen into poverty, he could have easily found work and been just as technically powerful and famous, if not more.
But he thought/knew he was special, so didn't think it should matter that he broke the rules. He wanted the prestige of being a Jedi master and wanted to be with Padmé, so that's what he did.
He wasn't a perfect cinnamon roll that Palpatine managed to sink his claws into. He already fundamentally disagreed with the Jedi, but was too self-absorbed to just leave.
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saphronethaleph · 2 days
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“What do you actually get out of this?” Darth Vader asked.
His Master, Darth Sidious, the Emperor of the Galaxy, frowned.
Then looked at Vader.
“What are you talking about?” he demanded.
“I think I was quite clear,” Vader said, implacably. “I asked you what you actually get out of this.”
“This, meaning… what?” the Emperor replied. “The Death Star project? That’s so we can dispense with the remaining ridiculous twaddle of the Senate.”
“Not what I meant,” Vader replied.
Palpatine shot him a glare. “Then what you meant was not obvious, was it, my apprentice?”
Vader’s respirator hissed.
“What do you get out of this,” he stressed. “Out of being Emperor.”
Palpatine stared at Vader for several seconds.
“I… am the ruler… of the galaxy,” he said, slowly.
“Yes,” Vader agreed, readily. “But what do you get out of it?”
The Sith cyborg folded his arms. “What do you get out of being Emperor that you could not have got out of merely being the Supreme Chancellor? What do you get out of either of those things that you could not have achieved merely by being quite rich?”
“The destruction of the Jedi could not have been achieved by merely being rich,” Palpatine snapped.
“They didn’t know you existed, Master,” Vader replied. “Though, I will grant you, it would have been an ongoing risk… but, at the same time, I must remind you that the Jedi are now all but exterminated. You are most certainly no longer at risk from them.”
He shrugged. “But I digress. If you hadn’t become a Sith in the first place, you wouldn’t have been at risk from the Jedi at all. So… what do you get out of this whole process?”
“Revenge,” Sidious said, firmly. “Sweet revenge.”
“...no,” Vader replied, and it was now his turn to speak slowly. “You didn’t join the Sith to get revenge on the Jedi. Before you joined the Sith you had no reason to. And even if you did… congratulations, Master. Your goal is complete. What do you get out of it now?”
“Why are you so insistent on asking these questions, Vader?” Palpatine demanded. “Is this some kind of misguided Jedi impulse?”
“It’s nothing to do with the Jedi!” Vader retorted, then his respirator hissed as he controlled his irritation. “It’s everything to do with the Sith. The Dark Side is the path of desire, and I Fell for very specific, duracrete motives. Which, by the way, I am still bitter about.”
“Don’t blame me for that,” Palpatine replied. “You’re the one who killed your wife.”
For a long moment, the air in the room seemed to have turned to ice.
“I will use Jedi techniques to repress the memory of you saying that,” Vader said, eventually. “And you should probably be thankful for that.”
Palpatine didn’t say anything.
“...what I’m getting at,” Vader continued, several seconds later, “is that I don’t actually know what you want to do any of this for.”
“I appreciate art?” Palpatine tried to assert, but even to him it came across as more of a suggestion.
“You appreciate it, in a way you could do without being the ruler of the galaxy,” Vader pointed out. “There are things you could do to promote art, and you’re not doing them. In fact…”
Vader’s voice trailed off, as he thought.
“In fact, what?” Palpatine asked. “I am rapidly getting tired of this conversation.”
“I was thinking about the things you do,” Vader replied. “The things which you do that do, or do not, require the powers that you have amassed as the Emperor of the Galaxy, Master. Some of those things are done simply to maintain your power. Like the Death Star project. Other things are things you could do more easily without being Emperor.”
He stepped back and forth, his robe sweeping in the way that took an ancient and particularly extra Sith technique.
“In fact,” he added. “The only thing I can think of that you do, which is not mainly related to maintaining your power and position, and which is rendered easier rather than harder by being Emperor, is racism.”
Palpatine blinked.
“Are you… accusing me of being a racist?” he asked. “But some of my closest political allies are non-human!”
Both Sith examined the sentence he’d just said.
“All right, that’s not particularly convincing,” the Dark Lord of the Sith admitted. “But I also have a hobby of doing things that no sane galaxy would permit. And I do enjoy killing people who annoy me.”
“You do?” Vader asked. “I’ve never noticed it.”
“Of course you wouldn’t, that’s the point,” Sidious replied. “There’s nothing so pleasant as making someone think that they were responsible for the death of a loved one, when it truly served your plan-”
The Emperor’s head came off.
Vader looked at his lightsaber, then at his hand, because something had just happened that he hadn’t actually planned.
The Emperor certainly looked quite surprised about it.
“...hm,” Vader said, eventually. “It appears I now need to find an apprentice.”
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nateofgreat · 9 hours
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I just heard, with my own ears, someone say the Lucas used the Chosen One prophecy to show that the Light Side was "too strong" in the galaxy and needed to be "balanced" by the Dark, thus the destruction of the Jedi Order. to "tip the scales back to neutral" and I'm just...... I'm in shock. At no point did Lucas ever fucking say that? At no point was the Light "too strong". The Dark had gotten too strong, that's why things were unbalanced, cause there was too much Dark and not enough Light. Light is balance itself. and their idea of "neutral" was the Sith ruling and Empire existing? that's what they think "balance" is????? What???? and of course this was on Star Wars youtube. tell me you don't know Star Wars, with out telling me you don't know Star Wars
To this day I've yet to hear a single thing that could go wrong from the light side being "too strong." Is there going to be too much peace? Too much compassion? Also this would contradict the other dominant theory of the Jedi "losing their way" and deserving to die.
The Chosen One prophecy wasn't explained the best in the movies themselves but it's pretty clear that irony was supposed to be that Anakin was a failed hero who helped the dark side rise instead of ending it, but that the prophecy was still later fulfilled when he killed Palpatine. As Palpatine was, of course, the true source of imbalance in the Galaxy. Nothing in the movies ever suggested that it was actually the Jedi who were at fault.
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"Wait a minute, how did this happen? We're smarter than this."
"Apparently not."
"I am. I was trying to warn y'all. Would it be a bad time to say I told you so?"
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ventresses · 7 months
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Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (7/?) - Mustafar, part 1
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adragonsfriend · 21 days
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It's always "the Jedi failed at this," "Anakin should've done that," and never "Darth Sidious is so good at his job, he deserves to get Sith Lord of the month."
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phoenixkaptain · 1 year
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I love it when pre Original Trilogy era shows how much effort went into making the Death Star. It took decades, literal decades, and it took so much money and so many people and it was such a secretive thing and it’s staffed by millions because it’s the size of a small moon.
I cannot express how much all of the added information makes it so much funnier that Luke blew it up.
Luke destroys literally everything Palpatine built. He blows up the Death Star, which was referenced in universe as early as the second movie. He blew up the weapon of mass destruction twenty years in the making. And he blew it up pretty much directly after it’s first and only successful attack. It was operational for fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes that Palpatine had the thing he’d been building for longer than Luke has been alive, and Luke blows it up. First day retirement, but first hour retirement.
Luke convinces Darth Vader to turn back to the light side, a feat thought literally impossible by literally everybody. Sidious clearly doesn’t see Vader’s betrayal coming. Vader’s betrayal was not in his plans, nor was it something he was prepared for. Sidious is a powerful Force user with all four limbs while Vader is a man in the tin can Palpatine put him in. If Palpatine had seen Vader turning coming, he would not have allowed it to happen.
Luke literally should not even be alive. Palpatine almost definitely got Padme out of the way on purpose, and he almost certainly was trying for her unborn child as well (there was way too big of a risk that a cute liddol bebe would bring some humanity back to Anakin, and Palpatine did not want Anakin to have any humanity) Luke living is literally the first step in Palpatine’s ultimate downfall, especially once Vader finds out that Luke is his son. His very alive son. His son that is not dead, despite Palpatine claiming Anakin killed Padme. Implying that Anakin killed Padme and she posthumously gave birth. But, she didn’t give birth on Mustafar, which was the last place Anakin interacted with her. And once the mother dies, you have to get those fuckers out fast or they die too.
I imagine Darth Vader piecing all of this together is that meme with all the math floating around his head, because how could Padme have died by his hand and then given birth like two hours later?
Luke killing Palpatine is what ultimately leads to the dissolution of the Empire as an omnipotent entity. Luke killed the Empire. Luke spends a good amount of his adult life killing Empire remnants. We see that in the Mandalorian, since he’s so recognizable that Gideon immediately knows he’s fucked just by seeing an X-wing. We read it in Legends’ continuity, where Luke terrifies Imperials because he can walk into their changing room and stand in their for a minute and they don’t even notice.
Luke destroyed Palpatine’s life’s work. Everything Palpatine spent his whole life working towards, and Luke kills all of it. He blows up not one, but two Death Stars (he may not have pulled the trigger on the second Death Star, but without him, it never would have been destroyed). He convinces not one, but multiple Sith and Dark Jedi to return from the Dark Side. He is the only reason that Obi-Wan Kenobi, the biggest pain in Palpatine’s ass ever born, lives long enough to make it to the Death Star.
Palpatine went through so much effort. And just when he had finally won, when he finally had a weapon capable of destroying entire planets with a single blast, making it impossible for any planets or peoples to go against him, Luke shows up nineteen years late to the Jedi party with space Starbucks and a droid twice his age and almost singlehandedly destroys everything Palpatine ever had a hand in creating.
Luke manages to become even worse than Obi-Wan Kenobi, the ultimate thorn in the side of politicians, and Luke doesn’t even understand any politics. He wasn’t trained in diplomacy like Obi-Wan and Leia, no, he’s a farmboy who left home for the first time in his entire life, just this morning. And he is the one to destroy the Empire.
If they rewrote Star Wars and had it entirely from Palpatine’s perspective, Luke Skywalker would be his greatest foe. Luke Skywalker would be the final boss. Luke Skywalker is the antithesis of everything Palpatine believes in and he is the one character that Palpatine cannot predict. He isn’t as moldable as Anakin, he doesn’t respond to threats very well, he’s apparently impossible to kill via Force lightning (still the funniest scene of all times, the progression of Palpatine’s face falling and him looking like “what the fuck??? Is this kid rubber??? I’ve electrocuted him eight times???”), his unwavering faith in his father’s goodness makes Darth Vader want to be a better person, Luke Skywalker is the big bad of Palpatine’s story and—
There is nothing in this world that is funnier than someone’s biggest antagonist being Luke fucking Skywalker. Luke Skywalker, who saved the galaxy with the power of love and who shouldn’t exist, by Jedi rules and by Palpatine’s own attempts, and whose best friends are literally droids, which Palpatine canonically hates!
Everything about this is hilarious, this is the funniest thing in all of media, Palpatine loses absolutely everything to some backwater farmboy who fucking likes droids.
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phantasm-echo · 1 month
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HAPPY STAR WARS DAY EVERYONE!!! For this special occasion (and the release of tales of the empire) I’m bringing back inquisitor fives hehehehe
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questforgalas · 6 months
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Palpatine: We’re going to leak that an assassination attempt on me is planned. The Jedi will try to infiltrate the bounty hunters, and we’ll trap them by hosting a bounty hunter contest to determine the assassination team and THEN if the Jedi is still alive, we’ll frame them for the whole thing
Dooku pouring his 3rd glass of wine at 9am: Please for the love of the force can we just reveal ourselves already
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trashy1turtle · 4 months
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stagbeetleboy · 3 days
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sk0rbut · 1 year
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if my parents had named me sheev i’d be evil too honestly
this is just what happens when you don’t pay your workers the fact that your boss was a sith is just a lucky coincidence
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charmwasjess · 7 months
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Lightsaber Theory: Obi-Wan "Sith Lords are Our Specialty" Kenobi consistently loses duels to Dooku not for any reason of technical form mismatch or lack of ability, but because Dooku is not even pretending to try to kill him. Resultantly, Obi-Wan can’t figure out what the fuck is going on when they fight. 
Obi-Wan: (preparing to defend an expected lethal strike) You’ll answer for your enormities, Count!
Dooku: (giving him the lightest love tap on the leg) Don’t be so sure, my special good lineage baby boy, so perfect in my eyes. 
Obi-Wan: …What?
Dooku: What?
Which Dooku and Obi-Wan proud lineage moment is even the most unhinged? There are so many to choose from! Is it Dooku’s frequent inability, both in AotC and TCW, to keep from spontaneously gushing about Sidious’s plans and even his own dark secrets to Obi-Wan?? Is it the time in Labyrinth of Evil where Dooku drags a long-suffering, bored Grievous over to watch a holorecording of Anakin and Obi-Wan thwarting his plans yet again, to point out how beautifully they’re working together as a team and how much he likes watching their lightsaber work evolve? Is it in the recent Brotherhood novel, where Obi-Wan just has to casually namedrop Qui-Gon to get Dooku to do exactly what he wants?
Obi-Wan is a big problem for Sidious in his mission to destabilize and corrupt Anakin, and Sidious knows it. He needs him out of the picture to do the same isolating, evil bullshit that worked so well when ensnaring Dooku himself. But the war has been going on for years now, and guess who remains inconveniently alive? And whose job was that to take care of? Oh yeah. I remember. His useless, Padawan assassin-collecting apprentice: fucking Count Dooku. By the time of RotS, Sidious has specifically ordered Dooku to make fucking sure Obi-Wan is dead only for him to completely ignore the command about a half-dozen times.
Going by the Stover RotS novelization, in the same scene where Dooku also literally refers to Obi-Wan as his fucking grandson actually, add that to our earlier list, Sidious reiterates that KILL OBI-WAN is the plan (over the sound of Dooku’s loud complaining) moments before that final duel.  I kind of wish we’d gotten a shot of Sidious's incredulous, enraged expression as Dooku knocks Obi-Wan unconscious and pins him safely out of the way. He is, once again, going out of his way to not kill Obi-Wan in that duel, and this time directly disobeying his Master to his face after they just had a conversation about it. You just know exactly what Sidious must be thinking at that moment. Oh, Dooku. You are so fucking fired.
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girlrandomstuff · 1 year
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Bail Organa is literally for Star Wars what Nick Fury is for Marvel and Charlie for Charlie's Angels and I'm so up for it.
Man brought Mon Mothma, Riyo Chuchi, Ahsoka Tano (aka Vader's former Padawan) and Obi Wan Kenobi (aka Vader's former Master) and many other others to fight with the Rebelion under the noses of the Empire without them not even suspecting. Deserves more recognition.
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darth-memes · 17 days
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STAR WARS: EPISODE III - REVENGE OF THE SITH CAME OUT 19 YEARS AGO!!
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