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eat-the-lemons · 1 month

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#dead boy detectives #sandman extended universe #dead boy detectives edwin #despair of the endless #the sandman despair #edwin payne #dead boy detectives spoilers #dead boy detectives memes #gaimanverse

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thoujou · 2 years

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Dreamtober Day 21. Despair.

#dreamtober #inktober #inktober2022 #the sandman #despair #despair of the endless #the sandman despair #the sandman fanart #fanart

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casadepalermo · 2 years

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Do we know what happened to the first Despair? What was the 2nd Despair before she “took up the mantle of Despair?”

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densewentz · 8 months

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Family Dinner Theater

Sandman Inktober Day 19 (dolls/puppets) gets to see Desire having some fun at Dream's expense 💕

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writing-for-life · 1 month

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The Endless Are Not Their Opposite--They Only Define It

I read quite often, on here and elsewhere, that the Endless are also their opposite (@tickldpnk8 and I were just talking about an interesting thread on Reddit), so I just decided to speed-complete this one and get it out of my drafts before it dies in there (so not as much in-depth as originally planned, but sometimes, you just need to run with it 🤣).

The Endless are not their opposite. They define it. It’s a (in my mind, and I’d love to hear what you think) massive difference. And they define their opposite by their absence. If they truly were their opposite, it would give very different meaning to canon, and if we were to do so, a lot of it wouldn't make sense in my view.

Dream is not also reality. He defines it. He is, and forever will be, unreality. It is his absence that defines reality. A dream that becomes real isn't a dream anymore--it's real. That’s the main reason why pulling the ship into reality in Overture weakens him. If he were reality, he could have just snapped his fingers and make it happen. If he were reality, a lot of his problems wouldn't be... well, problems. The fact he is (a) D/dream is pretty much why all his relationships are doomed to fail. Dreams don't last. Dreams are forever strange and can't be truly known.

Delirium is not also sanity/clarity. She defines it through her absence. And when she pulls herself together like in Brief Lives, it hurts her "muchly". It is immeasurable pain for her because it is what she is not and cannot be for any extended period of time without hurting herself.

Despair is not also hope. She defines it via her absence. As long as you hope, you don’t despair. If Despair were also hope, we would not have 6 issues of Overture very clearly showing us who and what H/hope is. If Despair were also hope, we wouldn't need a little girl called Hope reach out her hand and touch Dream—he would have a sister who could do it. But the only time Despair shows up for him, so to speak, is after he killed Orpheus—make of that what you will.

Death is not also life. She defines it. The fact that she is there at your beginning does not mean she is the one who gives you life. She is there so you will remember her, always (and especially when she takes your hand), hence you will cherish life. She does not directly give life to immortals either--they are immortal because of her absence, because she withholds her gift, like she does with Orpheus and Hob (the Eblis-situation has nothing to do with anything in my mind and is linked to a funeral rite, and we are clearly told it is not something she usually does [“it’s been so long”], or is remotely comfortable doing. It is just that she is the Endless that is most life-adjacent and hence the one who will have to do it. Just like Dream is the most reality-adjacent and hence the one who has to pull the ship).

Destruction is not also creation. He defines it. He is what gives us the blank slate, he is what makes creation possible, he is what starts the cycle and ends it, but he is not creation himself. Keeping on destroying makes creation impossible. There needs to be a pause, a break for creation to come to fruition—the absence of destruction. If he were also creation, he wouldn't create so badly (to the extent that it is canonically turned into a running gag), and being around him and seeking him out wouldn't be an issue. But it is.

Desire is not also hatred (I’m still not sure if hatred is really the opposite of desire, but I’ll run with it because that’s what Gaiman chose). They define it via their absence. You know how Dream doesn’t want Desire in his life anymore after one major spat (whether he had reason to or overreacted isn’t really the issue). And what feelings are often left in the absence of Desire? And what does Desire feel and gets themselves tangled up in because they are pushed away and are basically not acknowledged/desired by their own sibling despite constantly trying to show him they are important (desire is not just a sexual thing, people, get your mind out of the gutter 🤣)? Yeah, about that one… There is definitely a different type of enmeshment here which sometimes seems a bit plot-hole-y to me, but I think that might be down to the fact that Desire is the chosen antagonist (and even that, only to a degree until they aren’t). Even so, it still makes sense.

Destiny is not also freedom. He is the absence of it. All paths lead to the same end. Or a decision you make was the decision you were going to make all along, and what looks like a different ending was the ending that would have happened anyway. And even if you choose, the book will start to make that choice destiny again. Only Delirium knows what’s not in his book, and in this universe, the only true freedom is not bound by any rules, logic or sanity…

#the sandman #sandman #dream of the endless #death of the endless #sandman meta #sandman bookclub #desire of the endless #delirium of the endless #despair of the endless #destruction of the endless #destiny of the endless #sandman spoilers #I’ve been Gaiman’d

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weirdly-specific-but-ok · 1 month

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I'm not gonna lie, when Despair of the Endless appeared in DBD, it was a bloody weird feeling because... I don't know Sandman, and it was a teeny tiny peek into this fucking massive universe that so many people adore and I was just looking through the peephole. I know DBD is part of it, but like.

I don't know how to describe it. It was kind of like standing in an endless ocean (I'm hilarious, yes) and feeling so very, very small.

Fandoms and universes are a beautiful thing.

#dead boy detectives #dbd #the sandman #despair of the endless #neil gaiman #sandman universe #good omens mascot #weirdly specific but ok #asmi #maggots

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currentlyonstandbi · 2 years

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stormboundstars · 2 months

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ok ok but [spoilers ahead!] all the implications that Edwin and Charles are both each other's light in the dark. The lantern Edwin brings over to warm up a badly hypothermic Charles, the way its golden glow and Edwin himself kept the sick boy company, making that cursed attic room less gloomy. The flash of the explosive Charles throws at the baby doll-head demon that finally allows Edwin to run and escape with him from Hell. The confession scene, with that golden light burning persistently around the two of them even in the bleak stairways of Hell, reinforcing how they will always be there for each other no matter what. guys, they're each other's hope. guys.

#dead boy detectives #dead boy detectives spoilers #edwin paine #edwin payne #charles rowland #despair of the endless saying edwin's place isn't in their realm.#to me it meant because edwin still has hope and that's represented by charles literally descending hell to save him.#MY BOYS #the sandman #the sandman universe #gaimanverse #dead boy detectives netflix #can be read platonically or romantically btw #neil gaiman #newt's notes

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the-fictional-truth · 2 months

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Still thinking about Dead Boy Detectives and how wonderfully Edwin, his journey, and the confession was handled in that show.

Charles never hesitating to reassure Edwin, to tell him he never had any reason to doubt their friendship, the “I can’t say I’m in love with you the same way, but there’s no one else I’d go to hell for and we have forever to figure it out.”

And don’t even get me started about Edwin in hell with Simon, getting that closure for himself and even trying to bring Simon with him despite everything. (And despair telling him that they’re friends now? God I can’t wait to see what that means for future seasons)

I love this show so much and desperately want more episodes like… now.

#edwin payne #dead boy detectives #dbd #charles rowland #neil gaiman #the sandman #despair the endless

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fishfingersandscarves · 3 months

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illustrations for dream's board book from To Be Brand New by @dsudis for @the-centennial-husbands-bigbang

link to the pictures of the physical book here

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lukasadss · 23 days

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME, THEY'VE SHOWN US ALL OF THE ENDLESS

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meybuyan · 1 month

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this post feels..... E N D L E S S

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tokenducks · 2 months

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We need to talk about Despair telling Edwin “We’re friends now. I’ll call if ever I need you”

Ma’am? Ma’am??

#dead boy detectives #edwin payne #the sandman #dead boy detectives spoilers #despair of the endless

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pyrecryptid · 22 days

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Messy-Family Portrait

#the sandman #the sandman season 2 #the sandman spoilers #the sandman season 2 spoilers #destiny of the endless #death of the endless #dream of the endless #the prodigal #desire of the endless #despair of the endless #delirium of the endless #destruction of the endless #morpheus #ok i think thats all the tags #viarts

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writing-for-life · 3 months

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The Endless Escher—David Hitchcock

#the sandman #sandman #dream of the endless #morpheus #death of the endless #destiny of the endless #destruction of the endless #desire of the endless #despair of the endless #delirium of the endless #the endless #david hitchcock #sandman art #queue crew

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weirdly-specific-but-ok · 22 days

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the sandman but i've never read or watched it

Hello this is the Good Omens Mascot and I am currently being kidnapped again. Into the Sandman fandom. Forcibly. Brutally. By several people. There will be bloodshed. There will be livestreams, probably, when I watch the show. My struggle is Endless and I can only Dream of an escape (I'm hilarious). But before I watch it, I'm legally obligated to make this post. Soooo... here goes, based on like two edits on YT I watched:

@neil-gaiman created it. Of this at least I am sure.

There is Dream/Morpheus, and he is a sad wet cat of a man.

He has a sister Delirium, and apparently I remind everyone of her. This concerns me. Also, she used to be Delight.

I am not sure what these people are but they are Endless.

I'll tell you what's Endless, it's my gayness, because MY GOD, Dream is beautiful.

The sad wet cat of a man has a friend (/homoerotic) named Hob.

Hob is also a sad wet cat of a man.

Dream has a raven. The raven dies.

Someone is blamed. But Dream says it's his own fault.

Dream's family thinks he's deserted them. Dream also thinks this is his own fault.

I'm started to think Dream maybe has some repressed trauma.

Despair and Desire look gay for each other. Or they're siblings. Idk. Despair was in Dead Boy Detectives. That I do know, because FUCK YEAH DBDA.

Death exists, and she's kind. I think. She was also in DBDA.

It's gay. This I am assured of.

What's gay? Who's gay? I don't fucking know. But it's gay.

Did I mention I'm gay? Because god I'm now a sucker for yet another sad pathetic wet cat of a twink.

There's someone with glasses who tells Dream stuff. idk who they are but they seem important. So uh. They exist.

Dream cares a lot. But he Hides It Behind A Facade.

Did I mention he's fucking pretty?

...Please don't kill me Sandman fandom I was kidnapped here I swear I'm innocent.

#the sandman #dream of the endless #the sandman netflix #hob gadling #the sandman comics #delirium of the endless #delirium sandman #dream sandman #neil gaiman #dead boy detectives #despair of the endless #good omens mascot #weirdly specific but ok #asmi #maggots

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