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#this is a large part of why im wary of starting a queer Jewish club on campus bc the people who would wanna start it w mr
torahtot
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ok ive had enough of queering judaism. can we start judaizing queerness now. or something
#like. it feels like so much of this queering judaism shtus just layers an american/secular queer identity over judaism
#which i guess is fine for certain communities. but it's only going to push you away from orthodoxy
#and if as queer jews we already feel like our queerness makes us into secularized outsiders in our own communities
#how does this help? is trying to get our communities to embrace an essentially secular american iteration of queer identity supposed to mak
#us feel LESS like outsiders? it's not quite doing it for me
#we need a queerness that comes from within judaism that is essentially jewish
#ive seen a couple of articles recently from ppl talking abt how word/concept of butch doesnt exist in their language & culture
#but they use it anyway
#& like. i love being butch. it's important to me ill never give it up
#& i am american too. but my whole identity as a butch he/him lesbian is exclusively secular american it came from the outsifr
#which is definitely due in large part to the fact that my Gender Problems were really tied up w orthodox jewish gender roles
#so naturally to get out of that i'd pull on something not jewish. but i wish there was another option? idk if that's possible
#or how it would look
#maybe that's why im obsessed w the idea of a butch w long curly payos.... ๐ฆ
#i forgot where i was going w this but yeah it's frustrating
#this is a large part of why im wary of starting a queer Jewish club on campus bc the people who would wanna start it w mr
#well no offense but they are insufferable about this
#(incidentally they're also insufferable about chanukah. no surprises there)
#nachi speaks
#jew blogging
#others have Actually written abt all this tho
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