The awkward moment it springs to your mind the chain on Helaena's neck looks kinda like what you used to believe to be a strand of dark hair on the neck of the mysterious lady from the trailer...

Hello dear friend!

I think you are absolutely right, this is Helaena's pendant chain.

Interview with Phia in which she says she's not interested in duty... It is very interesting🤔😉

T/W mention of csa. Please lmk if you want me to stop bothering you w/my questions. I'm so disgusted with ppl calling Aemond a "milf hunter", claiming he was happy to have consensual sex with the brothel madame and pointig out by Wesrerosi standards, a 13 year old is already an adult. Like in spite the "Wesrerosi standards" we call Daenerys, Alicent and Helaena child brides, although by the abovementioned Wesrerosi standards, Drogo was a really decent, protective husband, Viserys I wasn't that terrible (he actually asked Alicent if she was ok), and the book Aegon, who was btw just 2 years older than his sister wife, used to get along with Helaena. I fear, however, that HBO is gonna give "Aemond the milf hunter" enthusiasts what they want, making the madame his lover, confidante and comfort person.

Hello! I'm glad you're interested in my opinion.

I've read these theories about Aemond lying on the brothel madam's lap. Even if this is true, there is no evidence that they had sex, the woman is fully clothed.

I don't support the theory that Aemond is a "milf lover", in the first season, when Aemond recognized her, he was embarrassed, he lowered his head and tried not to draw attention to himself. It's not normal for a 13 year old to have sex with a stranger. Viserys 2, also at the age of 13, had sex with his wife and she became pregnant from him, but they had love, they were happy together.

Only in Westeros! as an exception, this can happen with mutual love, but not when it is a marriage of convenience and the partners do not love each other.

Aegon did not get along with Helaena in the book: “Princess Helaena was breaking her fast with her children when the Kingsguard came to her…but when asked the whereabouts of Prince Aegon, her brother and husband, she said only, “He [Aegon] is not in my bed, you may be sure. Feel free to search beneath the blankets”” “Though the good septon admits Prince Aegon was with a paramour when he was found, he insists the girl was the daughter of a wealthy trader, and well cared for besides”

I was thinking about why they gave this information that Aemond lost his virginity at the age of 13. If the writers went with the idea that Aemond is the father of Helaena's children, this is important information. The age difference between Aemond and Helaena is one year. He, like Viserys 2, could impregnate his sister at the age of 13.

If we consider the version that Aemond is not lying on Helaena’s lap, then I am inclined to the version where Aemond is with a girl who dressed up as Helaena and in her dress. Perhaps they will have sex, after which Aemond will suffer from the fact that he cannot be with his sister.

A person can have sex with anyone, but still love and desire to be with someone else. Daemon had many sexual partners, but he always wanted to be with Rhaenyra. And I compare Daemon to Aemond because it's obvious and there are parallels we see between Daemyra and Helamond.

I'm not a fan of TB, but if you look at it objectively, Aemond and Daemon died for their queens. All these parallels are like a shot to the head. This shows their connection as characters, that this is one house with similar destinies. The entire Targaryen war is like a snake devouring itself - ouroboros.

I still believe in Helaemond's theory because all these hints that were obvious in the series. But I understand that everything is in the power of the writers and they can ruin everything.

what do you think about the latest trailer? it made me afraid my beloved ship helaemond is gonna sink 😭

Hello! I was sure that we wouldn't be shown any major spoilers. I read a spoiler that in the second season there will be flashback with Aemma Arryn, I don’t know why they are needed? Who cares? But we do have two shots of her in the trailer.

About Helaemond, we have a shot of Aemond on a girl's lap crying, I don't think he would show his tears to a prostitute or I also doubt that Aemond will cry in front of a woman (Alys) he sees for the first time in his life. There must be a strong emotional connection for this to happen.

In addition, Aemond will only meet Alys in season 3; in the second, Daemon will interact with her.

The girl in the frame could be Alicent (but why is Aemond naked?) or Helaena.

Helaena wears blue dresses and this dress is similar to her style from episode 9. This could be a flashback of Aemond and Helaena or it could be a scene after b&c or after battle at rook's rest.

Aemond is not the kind of person who would show weakness in front of a person with whom he has no intimacy and we were shown many helaemond moments in the first season and he was not afraid to cry and says in front of Helaena that Aegon and nephews is bullying him, but in front of others he did not show his tears even when his eye was cut out.

The ring... lol... but why not?😂

Helaena wears a rings on her middle finger in season 2 😂

I don't know. I'll just wait for the second season and believe 🕷💎

The writers openly talk about and confirm only the relationship between Alicent and Rhaenyra (lmao)

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I read a theory that this is not Aemma, but that it is Helaena's double.

Firstly, Aemond is no longer 13 years old for Aegon to drag him into a brothel.

Secondly, Aemond is not the kind of person who would voluntarily go to a brothel. He made it clear in the first season that he is not interested in prostitutes and that is what makes him different from Aegon.

So I don't think he's crying on the lap of Helaena's double. I also don't think he's with Mysaria. It is so stupid. Aemond doesn't know her, he won't be so vulnerable in front of her and show his weakness. Aemond won't tell her his secrets! This will be very fucking stupid!

! And the most important thing ! The girl in the picture doesn't have dark hair! It's the dress and the shadow.

The writers won't miss out on a script goldmine like Helaemond.

Aemond the Unburnt

𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊 𝕮𝖆𝖓𝖓𝖔𝖙 𝕶𝖎𝖑𝖑 𝖆 𝕯𝖗𝖆𝖌𝖔𝖓

"Who does Aemond want to please? What’s hurting Aemond?"

"I think at the moment, Aemond. Because the guy’s gone off the rails"

𝕾𝖔 𝖋𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖍𝖔𝖕𝖊, 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝖍𝖔𝖕𝖊 𝖋𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖋𝖊𝖆𝖗, 𝕱𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖗𝖊𝖒𝖔𝖗𝖘𝖊: 𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖌𝖔𝖔𝖉 𝖙𝖔 𝖒𝖊 𝖎𝖘 𝖑𝖔𝖘𝖙; 𝕰𝖛𝖎𝖑, 𝖇𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖔𝖚 𝖒𝖞 𝖌𝖔𝖔𝖉!

J.Milton - Paradise lost

Ewan always has such a happy, enchanted, loving face when he talks and thinks about Helaena 🕷💎 Its gases sparkle like stars 🥹✨💖

𝚃𝚑𝚘𝚜𝚎 𝚕𝚘𝚟𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚎𝚢𝚎𝚜 💜

𝙷𝚎 𝚕𝚘𝚟𝚎𝚜 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚊𝚎𝚗𝚊 𝚜𝚘 𝚖𝚞𝚌𝚑 🩵

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Hello! Yes, you can do it 🐉

after reading the latest interview with Gayle I fear they're going to sideline Helaena or even write her clairvoyance off. Especially given there are no Phia interviews. And neither is she present in promos

Hello! Thanks for the question.

Each actor signs a contract that he agrees to perform. Conditions may vary and Phia may not be allowed to give any interviews and draw attention to herself. Normis (They only remember the names of Daemon Rhaenyra lmao) consider Helaena a strange girl and do not pay much attention to her, if Phia actively participates in the promotion - this will attract attention, therefore, there is a risk that the second season and Helaena's storyline will not receive the reaction that hbo wants, because people will start spoiler for themselves. So I think this is a good strategy for showrunners. The calm before the storm.

Perhaps the showrunners are also afraid that Phia will spoil something. When a photo of Olive Beever (Jaehaera) went viral, the hbo was outraged. I still don't know if the story is true that Phia told fans in Spain that she is Helemond stan and seemed to hint at their relationship. My point is that the actors are not allowed to give any spoilers or information. If Phia really said a spoiler, then it’s clear why she’s not in the promotional company.

We can assume that the promotional campaign has just begun, and I think Phia will participate in it, but not actively. I'm actually surprised that hbo, with their obsession with the TB and their constant desire to show them as "infallible heroes", remembered Ewan and Tom.

Well, I have a lot of thoughts on this issue.

In any case, after the second season or during its release, we will get an interview with Phia. I will hope.

Alicent & Helaena

𝐒𝐨 𝐛𝐚𝐝

I can't blame Alicent for what she did to Helaena, because she didn't know any other life.

Like mother, like daughter 💔

I know a lot of people think Otto is smiling because Helaena made a toast in public, but f*cking seriously? She literally screams for help, and he smiles and says "good"

Helaena has a scared face and panic in her eyes when asked about Aegon.

Alicent forcibly smiles through pain.

Helaena led the children into Aemond's room

This means Helaena always comes with the children to Aemond's room. B&C knew about it

They took the eye & the son

Hello, sorry to brother you again, please lmk if u have enough of my rants 🤣. I wanna ask , don't you think it's somewhat crazy that due to this ridiculous a*ysmond vs. helaemond ship war, the character of Helaena Targaryen seems to have more haters among the TG than TB part of the fandom? I legit know several TB supporters/ content creators who claim Helaena deserves better and it will be cool if it turns out she has kids with someone who likes and respects her(=Aemond). Also, even TBs point out if the showrunners want to give Aemond a romantic subplot, helaemond will be a better option, since unlike a*ysmond , this relationship is a consensual one + Aemond's protectiveness and attachment to his sister appear pretty obvious... It's such a pity some Green fans diminish Hel's clairvoyance and claim it's useless and she's far less powerful seer and less interesting character than A*ys. They want A*ys' magic to be explored further, and not Hel's. Which I totally don't understand, since in GOT, we have already seen greenseers, woods witches and even Red Priests, but we still don't know much about dragon dreamers. Imo focusing on Targaryen magic in a Targaryen -centric show would be a far better idea. Also, HOTD's portrayal of Helaena could potentially be a really refeshing and original take on a magical woman. I mean unlike stereotypical sorceresses, usually dark-haired, clad in flowy, dusky gowns and dwelling in fantastic, Gothic manors, Hel looks like a sweet Princess ,but she's still blood of the dragon and a seer. I mean she doesn't need Gothic aesthetics and stuff to be "magical", since she herself is magic!

Hello! I'm glad to see your questions and glad that you are interested in my opinion 😊

The asoiaf fandom has always been toxic, no matter if you discuss books or series, there have always been wars in the fandom. Treat it like a game and don't spend a lot of energy on it.

Yes, there is a war of ships going on now. It's true, alysmond stans is the anti-Helaena and the anti-Helaemond. I don't understand why TG thinks Alys is part of the green party. Alys is not green. She has her own personal interests and goals.

Dance of the dragons is a Targaryen story, Alys is not a Targaryen, she is just a tertiary character (like Mysaria), she will not have more time.

I really want to see more of Helaena as a character, more of her magical abilities, more of her personality, more of her connection to the people of King's Landing, her family, her children, and her dragon. Rhaenyra did more action (in the book she sat on Dragonstone for the entire war), so I'm sure Helaena will have a lot of screen time.

Helaena doesn't have to be a stereotypical and banal goth girl. Comparing her to Alys is a waste of time. Helaena is beautiful, she looks like an elf and a fallen angel to girls from sagas.

Helaegon stans opposes Aemond, and they don't like all the allusions to Helaemond. I'm not anti-Aegon, but I'm anti-helaegon because there was no love between Aegon and Helaena in the show or even in the book. It was a forced marriage. Aegon had a mistress and other children. helaegon is lmao. helaegon is an abusive relationship. Abusive to Helaena. This is the reality and the truth.

“Princess Helaena was breaking her fast with her children when the Kingsguard came to her…but when asked the whereabouts of Prince Aegon, her brother and husband, she said only, “He [Aegon] is not in my bed, you may be sure. Feel free to search beneath the blankets””

“Though the good septon admits Prince Aegon was with a paramour when he was found, he insists the girl was the daughter of a wealthy trader, and well cared for besides”

“We have nothing in common”, “You [Aemond] marry her [Helaena], then”

“She's an idiot”

“I regret the disappointment you [Baela] are soon to suffer. But if you ever wish to kniw what it is to be well satisfied, all you have to do is ask”

“It isn’t so bad. Mostly he just ignores you…except sometimes when he’s drunk”.

“Think of the shame on your wife, on me” [Aegon r*p*d the Dyana who helped Helaena with her babys]

“I will find a ship and sail away, never to be found” [Aegon wanted to run away, abandon Helaena and her children]

I think Aegon always wanted to be on Rhaenyra's side. Perhaps he thought that Viserys would start to notice him and love him if he was closer to his older sister than to his other siblings. Even as a child, he was more interested in spending time with his nephews, and he did not take Alicent's words seriously until Aemond's eye was gouged out (Aemond could have died after such a wound)

“If Rhaenyra come into power you very life could be forfeit. Aemond is as well. She could move to cut off any challenge to her succession”

“Then I won’t challenge”

Aegon has a bad relationship with his mother and siblings ("She's an idiot" "He's a twat"). I think Aegon was more interested in love from Viserys and Rhaenyra than from his real family.

“My sister is the heir, not me,” he says in Eustace’s account. “What sort of brother steals his sister’s birthright?”

“He [Viserys]didn't like me”

Perhaps Aegon liked the idea of marrying Rhaenyra?

Sorry, I got a little off topic.

I agree with you, it would be great if Helaena's children were with the man she loves (Aemond). It is very sad and terrible that Helaena had to endure drunken se**ally har***ment from Aegon 🫣 😱 Poor girl 🥺 😭 I hate Aegon for this! Alicent, why did you let this happen? Helaena could have Aemond! Helaena was scared when Otto and Alicent asked her where Aegon was. She lowered her head - this is a gesture of protection. I don’t understand people who “like” Helaena and support the helaegon ship. They support abusive relationships and domestic vio**nce. It is a fact. This is anti-Helaena relationships.

#We need more Helaena in season 2!

I don't understand why people claim Al*s is going to be the only person the !Show Aemond ever cared about. Like we already know he's a dutiful son. He's also very protective towards Helaena (he literally shields his sister with his own body when Rhaenys ruins Aegon's coronation). In addition, Aemond's twisted relationship with Aegon is really interesting. I'd also say he's a father figure to Helaena's kids (judging from their reaction to Alicent, calling for her father Otto ❤️). Imo it will be such a pity if they reduce the realm of Aemond's feelings and emotions to just obsessing over his love interest.

Hello!

This will not happen, I am one hundred percent sure.

Alys stans says this because she wants to.

We have already seen Aemond in the first season: he takes care of his mother, Helaena, and children. I don't believe he will leave his family. Regarding Aegon, everything is complicated, Aemond demonstrates hostility (?) towards Aegon, there is no brotherly love between them (!). Relationship between Aegon and Aemond: "You may cuff him about as you wish at home, but in the world, we must defend our own" Sorry, but this is a fact. Perhaps everything will change in the second season? I really hope so.

Aemond doesn't abandon his family, not even in the book, I don't believe he did that, I think there's a lot left unsaid and unrevealed. Alicent said: "The city is yours, princess, but you won’t hold it for long. Rats play when the cat is away, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood" Alicent knew her son better, and she knew that he would not leave her and Helaena. There must be a serious reason.

"Prince Aemond favored an immediate attack upon King’s Landing. None of the queen’s dragons were a match for Vhagar, he insisted"

I don’t like the character Alys, I’m not sure that I will have a different relationship with the show Alys. She looks a lot like Mysaria. I think Alys mur***ed all her children to preserve her youth - that's what you read between the lines.

I can’t support alysmond because I don’t believe in this ship, I don’t believe that there was love between them. Aemond destroyed House Strong, just as Aegon the Conqueror destroyed the family of Harren Hoar. alysmond is a crack ship, as if Harren had a daughter who, after her family was destroyed, fell in love with Aegon and had a child with him (If Helaena had fallen in love with Daemon). Maybe "stockholm sy***ome"? The whole story of alysmond is like a rumor - a rumor that Alys spread to establish his power in Harrenhal. Why didn't she save Aemond if she knew he was going to die and did she love him? Because from Alys’s side, Aemond’s death is an excellent revenge for the house Strong.

I think Alys will manipulate Aemond by threatening his family that she saw them die. I think there will be a deal between Alys and Aemond: he will spare her life, and she will look to the future for him.

I also don't believe Alys's child is Aemond's. You know, it’s very strange that she didn’t contact Aegon to make her son heir and marry him to Jaehaera. Alys called her son king, “kneel before your king,” but did not fight for his rights. Maybe because he is not Aemond's son? Maybe because she used this child, and when she realized that she had lost, she mur***ed him to preserve her youth? There are a lot of questions.

Aemond is a supporter of valyrian traditions “...strengthen the family. Keep our Valyrian blood pure” I don’t believe that after these words he voluntarily decided to conceive a child with Alys Rivers and be with her. Maybe Alys is a hidden Valyrian or Targaryen? (lmao)

It's funny that many of the TG (I'm not anti-TG) love alysmond ship, but condemn demira ship (I don't support daemira and tb) because of the large age difference between Daemon and Rhaenyra, although the age difference between Aemond and Alys is also very large, and this relationship can be called pe... too

Forgive me if you love alysmond and don't take my words if they hurt you, you can support any ship you want. You asked me and I answered you 🙏🏻

Thank you for your question. I hope you understand my English 🙏🏻

Aemond One-Eye rode Vhagar, and the peril posed by Queen Visenya’s mount could not be gainsaid

In 110 AC, she bore him a second son, Aemond, who was said to be half the size of his elder brother, but twice as fierce.

By the time the stableboys finally arrived to pull apart the combatants, the prince was writhing on the ground, howling in pain, and Vhagar was roaring as well.

Even those who loved her best found Visenya stern, serious, and unforgiving; some said that she played with poisons and dabbled in dark sorceries.

Illustrations by Denis Maznev Roman Papsuev (Amok) John McCambridge

A crazy idea- what if Aemond crowns Helaena when he becomes the regent? After all even as a kid, he believed she would be the queen

Hello!

I think this is a very cool idea and I came to the same conclusion too!

Helaena's coronation scene is important and I don't think it was cut, I think it was moved to season 2. I believe in this, I wrote about it.

I think Aemond will crown Helaena, or they will be crowned together. This means Helaena will get more character development. Perhaps Aemond would leave King's Landing to her and fly on a Vhagar to take revenge on Daemon.

Remember Ewan, when he was in CCXP2023, during an interview he chose Helaena as the coin master and said: “She is good with books and money” How does he know? Was that a spoiler?

Aemond and Helaena together in the library 💙

On the twenty-second day of the fifth moon of the year 130 AC

Daemon ripped off his nephew’s helm and drove the sword down into his blind eye, so hard the point came out the back of the young prince’s throat. Half a heartbeat later, the dragons struck the lake, sending up a gout of water that was said to have been as tall as Kingspyre Tower. Neither man nor dragon could have survived such an impact, the fisherfolk who saw it said. Prince Aemond had only turned twenty.

The end came when a crossbow bolt nicked one of the dragon’s eyes. Half-blind, and maddened by a dozen lesser wounds, Dreamfyre spread her wings and flew straight up at the great dome above in a last desperate attempt to break into the open sky.

Helaena Targarye threw herself from her window in Maegor’s Holdfast to die impaled upon the iron spikes that lined the dry moat below. Helaena’s end had been mercifully swift: one of the spikes took her through the throat and she died without a sound. She was but one-and-twenty.

The Blood Wyrm’s jaws closed about Vhagar’s neck, her black teeth sinking deep into the flesh of the larger dragon. Even as Vhagar’s claws raked her belly open and Vhagar’s own teeth ripped away a wing, Caraxes bit deeper, worrying at the wound as the lake rushed up below them with terrible speed.

Aemond & Helaena Dreamfyre & Vhagar

Aemond & Dreamfyre

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