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tofumaple · 4 months

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Mari’s Theory Of Happiness

#my art #omori #omori spoilers #mari omori #the big sister ever #Ayano Tateyama and Mari would be besties frfr

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arisaline73 · 11 months

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sunny after he tells everyone the truth

ive been wanting to draw omori text posts for a while now, they’re so funny. if people like this then maybe

#omori #omori spoilers #omori sunny #omori basil #ceo of curly hair basil #and big nose basil #in short i changed his design a lot #not as much as kel tho

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biocrafthero · 7 months

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Are we not going to talk about this yet or do I need to do everything myself

#rambles #omori #omori spoilers #do you guys see what I mean here. do you guys see it #anyways big chair = throne is REALLY goofy of Sunny tbh

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some-mari-thoughts · 2 years

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2) All abroad, into the dark

Hijinks ensue as the darker rooms of the game prove to be the most interesting, I am only starting to settle with the format of the series while rushing through Dreamworld, as well as starting to stream some of the playthrough/art on Discord.

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The placement of the lighting and shadows on the train is verrrry interesting and acts as foreshadowing to the very end of the game, at Sunny route. obviously, friends will be oblivious to that. After all, it's Omori's fight, and he will be the one to point all the ugliest thoughts out.

I TORE through those bears. I didn't do much grinding, but also refused to run from enemies in favour of getting as much exp as possible along the way - which worked incredibly well! 15 carpets under Sweetheart's garden, and only Aubrey toasted once

The library...

It's Mari's space - lost memories, books, egret orchids, blue-purple hues, low lighting and distant piano. The library may be part of sunny, but right now it's only keeper is Guardian Mari, I think. or otherwise, would've been Mari - she's the only person we can still see there.

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ksenya-and-the-artistic-cucumber · 1 year

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If you could change anything about the story/lore of Omori (the game) what would it be?

Edit: Please only send asks related to OMORI to @some-mari-thoughts! Especially related to story! I avoid posting major spoilers on this blog

OMORI(game) Major spoilers under cut!

I would not touch the incident and how it's handled, and I would not touch how mental health parts are handled.

1.-I do want to have at least the tiniest nod to how OLD a character of Ghost!Mari is in Sunny's headspace, aside, yk. Barely canon content of old trailers where she appears in several locations of White Space and seems to be a common but scary part of it.

She kinda seems like an old and thoroughly erased appearance but also a large part of headspace? She's scary and Omori does NOT want to see her, and Sunny is lowkey terrified of her, but as soon as things get scary, she's there to softly provide advice or comfort. However, she could as well be read as recent/in-game time appearance and that kinda sucks.

2. I want to get a bigger nod to Sunny's ghosts/visible memories. Memories are important, but Grandma and Mari AND Mewo seem still like largely questioned/argued about parts of story. They're small, not connected at all, nods to SOMETHING that nobody quite gets? And everyone is just left theorizing about it, whether he in fact sees ghosts and that they exist in OMORI's world, or he has a very bright imagination fueled by thoughts and feelings which he obviously has. That just... doesn't explain these 3 character appearances, really.

3. I kinda want to believe that Mewo is part of imagination, as she appears on the pavement, only to lead Sunny home - she's largely a part of his Home and so she works like a great guide. I really want Mewo to be with Mom rn :'] Another nod to how empty and barren and not-homely Sunny's house is rn.

Like. I doubt Sunny would be able to feed the kitty well. He waited til he almost starved to eat a rotten stake himself. Though! I do believe Mewo would improve the feeling of loneliness and utter dread the house inspires atm.

4. But ya. I'd like to get some more Grandma moments. Know her better. Sunny obviously knew her but seems to be missing a lot of memory connected to her. I'd like to know her better, like get some... family photo album or a long talk with Polly or something.

TL.DR: Tell me more about Ghost!Mari!!! Mewo!!! Basil's Grandma!!!! GRRRRAAAA

#Ask post #OMORI #OMORI spoilers #OMORI big spoilers #BIG SIS BIG SIS #OMORI Mari #OMORI Sunny #OMORI Grandma #OMORI Mewo #Son boi #Little kit #My doodles #Mari

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grey-spark · 2 years

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What exactly is Headspace?

Is it a dream? An alternate universe? (TW: mental illness, spoilers)

In this post, I will be discussing a fictional phenomenon resulting from dissociative disorder that exists only in the OMORI universe. I want to impress two seemingly contradictory points:

1) Headspace is simply NOT possible in the real-life. 2) Headspace is still not a alternate universe, its just a dream.

Rather I would like to put forward a soft science fiction explanation using all the information we’ve been given about the topic.

Part 1: Headspace is NOT possible in the real life.

The true nature of Headspace is much close to that of a coma than secret universe. If a coma is sleeping, but longer. Then Headspace is dreaming, but longer. Headspace is not its own universe, just an extended dream that continues in the back of the patient’s mind during waking hours. We know this because whenever Sunny returns to the dream he find things have changed while he is awake. For example, when the Playground Kids enter Jawsum’s employment, and when Omori detains the Deep Well Creatures while Sunny is absent. Furthermore, Headspace creatures do not have sentience anymore than characters in our real-life dreams. Rather they are characters manufactured by the unconscious recesses of our minds. They only appear to have sentience, when in reality they are only puppets being manipulated by the sleeper’s mind. Headspace being only a dream would also explain why every world is tailor made to the individuals symbolic ideas. Much like real-life dreams, every part of Headspace has a symbolic meaning. And if it was just a fantasy world, locations and characters would be more generalized. However, all that being said, I have reason to believe Headspace Disorder has fictional traits that do not exist in real life. Those being:

Dream Stability

Dreams in real-life are very limited in scope and spatial awareness, and more importantly, remembrance is extremely limited. Dreams are not really like real places with clearly defined parameters and object permanence. In fact, most sleepers forget their dreams immediately. Headspace is nothing like this at all. Sunny is capable of maintaining an entire island, and remembering every chest he’s opened. Mr Outback even mentions this. Noting that Sunny has an unusually large world and a big imagination.

However, Sunny’s cognitive skill alone is not enough to change the nature of dreaming itself. Even if it was only a few areas, the level of stability and permanence of the Headspace dream is atypical of real-life dreams and therefore must have some fictional feature. Though it is important to note OMOCAT stated in an interview that only people with “big imaginations” are capable of having White Spaces. (We will be returning to that interview later) So having those skills make having the disease possible in for the “dreamer” but are not enough to make it possible in real-life.

Inter-Dream Communication

On the topic of Mr. Outback, he does indicate that Headspace is a shared phenomenon, and more importantly exhibits a self-awareness of his own place in these shared dreams. This is the main evidence people give for the alternate universe theory. After all, if Outback has a life outside of Sunny’s Headspace he must be an autonomous individual separate from him to some capacity. Outback goes further to even say that Headspace has existed since the beginning of time and even says he’s 33000 years old. An age that feels so oddly specific. Why not say he’s 1,000,000 years? or a billion? Why that age specifically? Outback’s age is roughly the same age as the Venuses of Willendorf, the oldest surviving pieces of human representational art. The oldest of which being only 4000 years off Outback’s stated age.

This means Headspace has been around for as long as Humans have been capable of creating representational art pieces/ stories.

Headspace has existed for a long time. And its a place people “visit”. But the question is, if multiple people can visit this place, does this imply that there can be cross communication between dreamers?

Yes. I think there is some evidence for this in Black Space, from the Stranger’s dialogue.

The Stranger in this conversation speaks with knowledge that only Basil himself would be privy to even saying “let my words reach you one last time” Implying this isn’t just some Headspace creature like the rest. It’s Basil. It’s the real basil speaking to Sunny through dreams.

Seriously just read these statements:

How does Sunny’s mind know Basil waited for him at all? How does it know Basil has things he wants to say to him?

Add the weird Mr. Outback stuff. Add the strange properties that are impossible in real-life dreams. Add OMOCATs comments, its all paints the picture that Headspace is not some run of the mill dream.

But is it really another world? Is it a dream or not?

Part 2: Headspace is likely not a alternate universe.

All of this seems incredibly magical. And by real-life standards it would be, but REAL WORLD is not the real world.

We already know the movie and videogame characters of real life don’t exist in Faraway Town or vice versa. Their world is like our world but slightly different. The biggest difference of all being Headspace. But what do we know about it for sure? Without further ado, lets see what OMOCAT has to say. Look at how they respond when asked about Basil’s White Space.

Notice how OMOCAT in this interview uses psychologically driven language like “mind” and “memory”

u/xDal-Lio - OMOCAT interview from Cydonia streaming translated in english

They even talk about it from “personal experience”, if that doesn’t ground it in reality, what will?

At this point I’d like to add that I use the term “Headspace” rather liberally, White Space is the foundation of Headspace, the latter cannot exist within an individual without the former. Think of White Space as the canvas and Headspace as the drawing. The OMOCAT states outright that “White Space is based on the ability of some people to completely isolate their minds when something traumatic happens”. This has lead many people to suspect that Headspace/White Space are not an alternate world but rather a symptom of Dissociation. Darly Talks has already done a full video on the topic and I would encourage everyone to watch it.

This theory of White Space being connected to Dissociation is almost confirmed. Based on OMOCAT’s interview above and some hints in the game (like Humphrey soundtrack H2O HLC being a nod to Dissociation) I think this should just be accepted as the foundational truth. However, Dissociation doesn’t explain everything; people in real-life experiencing dissociation don’t get to visit Headspace headspace overnight. The closest real life equivalent to Headspace would probably be “Lucid Dreaming” a phenomenon where a sleeper is able to control their own dream.

But Lucid Dreaming has no attachment to dissociation, but like Headspace is more adaptable to certain individuals rather than others. As stated in the interview above, some people can’t make a White Space. Perhaps at this point it would be premiant to build a profile of who is more likely to be “able to do it” in OMOCAT’s words. Based on what we can guess its probably:

Sunny, Basil and Hero

OMOCAT doesn’t outright state whether Basil has a White Space, but as stated before, Basil communicates to Sunny in his dream through Black Space, so I would conclude it more likely than not that he has one since his mind is stated to be the very source of Something’s existence. Hero on the other hand is a more dicey proposition, we know he was locked away in his room for almost a year based on Kel’s account. Something also of note is how Hero is the only Headspace party member to have a Black and White afraid emotion. He used to have it be purple in the 2018 demo, but they went out of their way to make sure it was black and white for the final release of the game.

The implication here, at the very least, is that Sunny understands that Hero has been effected by Mari’s death in a way close to his own. It also explains why he’s also the only character to get his own room in “The Docks” the deepest area of Black Space. (read my post explaining all the areas of Black Space for more info) But overall, the information we’ve been given is not enough to confirm where Hero had his own White Space. Its a coin flip. 50/50 whether he had one. But lets assume he’s more likely to have it than the others, this creates a profile of intelligence and creative individuals being the deciding factors of who gets a Headspace or not.

Part 3: Sunny’s Choices vs Default Headspace

So what does this all mean? What is Headspace? A Lovecraftian entity? Based on everything addressed thus far, I have reason to believe that Headspace is a medically explainable phenomenon within the OMORI universe, and within said universe the collective unconscious is a very real thing. Meaning Headspace is a shared dream that’s been ongoing since Humanity became sentient. This would explain Outback’s comments about his age and why so many people have access to it. Headspace is not another world, its a shared endless dream. One that will go on until humans die out, or maybe even after. Traumatic events and dissociation allow an individual to escape reality and set up a new Headspace on this collective foundation by hiding away “truths”. Keys appear in these locking them away. Outback talks about it in a way that implies Black Space and the keys are a baked in part of the White Space experience, one a repression of the other.

Lets consider what Daddy LongLegs has to say. He says, after White Space, sleepers will then have multiple dreams. Each dream being redefined as a “world” in this context. Like real-life dreams, Sunny did not make these worlds, his mind did, and LongLegs said he “stumbled through them”. All Sunny’s worlds used to be separated but then later where combined, probably by Sunny himself or even Omori. On the topic of Omori, another interesting take away is how LongLegs implies that there was a period of time Sunny was in control of the dream but then allowed Omori to take over later on.

This means that Omori himself, ironically, is the only part of the Headspace phenomenon that is actually unique to Sunny. Meaning that repressing one’s self is only optional, and entirely of Sunny’s own choosing.

It is unknown whether the inclusion of the “three great creatures” of Headspace was also Sunny’s doing, or if they are a defined part of everyone’s Headspace. The fact that they have defined roles, “Oldest, Wisest, Favorite” implies that it might be a set of characters different to everyone's Headspace, vaguely based on the Freudian Id, Ego and Super Ego. However its also mentioned they existed before Headspace, implying that they are imaginary friends that predated the creation of White Space and thus, might just be unique to Sunny, calling upon them to help him set up Headspace, giving them titles he just made up. But again, its uncertain. Since there is no evidence to Sunny having these imaginary friends refenced in Real World, not even mentioned in passing. So all of it is unclear. I could discuss the roles each member actually played in Sunny’s Headspace, but that is not relevant to the broader discussion here.

CONCLUSION

Headspace is a shared dream of humanity only accessible by imaginative individuals through dissociated dreaming. Every “Dreamer” starts with a White Space and Black Space and from there can explore other dreams all built on the bedrock of the shared dream, but the actual nature of the dream itself is built unconsciously by the mind and is different for every person. Older “Headspace creatures” or dream characters can move between individuals Headspaces at will, and even dreamers may do so to a certain extent. Optionally, Dreamers may choose to repress themselves and forget themselves entirely.

#omori #omori lore #omori analysis #omori character #omori hero #omori sunny #omori basil #omori abbi #omori humphrey #omori spoilers #omori headspace #omori mr outback #omori meta #big yellow cat

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mikkokomori · 2 years

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Another idea (please inform me if I start to annoy you.)

So in Omori Abbi, Humphrey, and Big yellow cat (Byc for short) are all huge, I think this is because Sunny came up with them when he was small, like how Byc might be based off the play structure in the park that has a hole in the bottom of it that a kid might climb in;

So in Omari there probably small because Mari was taller than Sunny when he came up with them, so instead of being big Bosses, their Sunny's little helpers;

Or because in Omori you get in Humphrey and young Sunny might have gotten in the play structure, in Omari they might act as a three piece suit of armor (or three different suits of armor).

So either Mari sees them as helping her goal of protecting Sunny, or later she sees them as getting in the way of her protecting Sunny; a tragic irony, telling them to let go of him when she won't.

Or she does realize this and she starts to see them as competition; saying something like "Only I may smother him!".

You are so real for this, may I use this idea because I think it's really cute ahehehehe

Sunny's little helpers, Sunny's little helpers!!!

Sunny's little helpers, forever and always.

#OMARI AU #omori sunny #omori abbi #omori big yellow cat #omori humphrey #omori spoilers #omori #mikos art #tremendousbrababum asks #miko panta #miko talks

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siffrins-dead-parents-jk-unless · 1 year

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okay okay okay, this post is gonna have major spoilers for OMORI, so please play the game. i'll give you some space...

i think they're gone. if not, last warning.

alright, now let us begin. i'm going to talk about something that isn't addressed nearly enough by the community. why the hell, or how the hell, did Basil know how to tie a noose at 12? i sincerely doubt that, since OMORI is set in the late 90's-early 00's, Basil would have access to the internet where he could learn about it easily. he most likely wouldn't have access to adult literature where the process could be described. there is nearly no possibility that anyone would have taught him this at 12. he wouldn't know this unless he actively seeked it out, therefore, he purposefully learned to tie a noose. the implications of this are depressing, really. i'm not saying that he was planning a suicide before the accident, that might be a stretch based on how happy he would be with the friend group. however, it does seem that he was contemplating suicide at one point, likely before he met Aubrey and was introduced to Sunny and Co. this directly supports the theory/speculation/fact/??? what am i supposed to call this? that Basil had mental health problems long before the stair incident.

i usually wouldn't post this kind of thing, but y'know what? i was feeling adventurous today. if you actually read this, then i hope i didn't waste your time.

#OMORI #omori spoilers #Basil #omori theory(?)#i'm literally just pointing out something it's not a big deal

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