Most insightful take you've seen on the buffyverse.
Hi! Sorry that it's taken me so long to respond to this ask...I've been thinking about my response for a few days because I feel like it's hard to pick just one insightful take, so I'm gonna give you two haha
I think a really insightful take that I had never thought of/noticed before finding the fandom and seeing people point things out, are all the parallels in Buffy and Angel's journeys - both together and separately. Their journeys mirror each other from the moment their paths cross to the very end. They literally go through the same things, in different situations and variations: Dawn/Connor, Death and Resurrection, Isolation/depression, Sp*ke/Darla, their leadership roles, etc. Now that I'm aware of it, I find myself finding new ways that they parallel each other every time I rewatch the shows and I find it elevates my watch of both shows SO much.
The second take absolutely blew my mind when I heard it, and I just have to share it. On the Investigating Angel Podcast (which I am a co-host of hehe), we spoke about the Buffy and Angel theme songs and how they're connected. I'll insert some screenshots here from the book Sarah found this in - Music, Sound, and Silence in Buffy the Vampire Slayer by Janet K. Halfyard:
To sum it up:
"Buffy’s basic theme is too short to really be called a melody; rather, it is a four-note motif. Angel’s theme is a considerably longer melody, and where the opening four notes echo the pitches of Buffy’s motif, the final four notes echo its shape. The similarities of key and motif between Buffy and Angel might be read as a thinly disguised means of reasserting the eternal bond between the two characters—although they are separated (into two series, apart from anything else) they will always be connected. The shared motif stands as a symbol of their common mission, of the emotional connection between them, and also of their separation."
Sarah also made a video about this, if you're interested in watching it, it's EXCELLENT:
ANYWAY, I'll just shamelessly plug our podcast now.......check out Investigating Angel Podcast on any platform! We're rewatching Angel the Series and will be wrapping up season 3 by the end of June :)
Thanks for the ask :)
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I understand what Angel saw in buffy but why would a 16 year old fall in love with him?
Why would a 16 year old fall in love with him or why would Buffy, as a character, fall in love with Angel as a character? Why is there such a resistance to look at what drew them to each other as characters?
Like, sure, we could talk about the instant chemistry
and instant attraction
and the mysterious older guy who some people would classify as tall, dark, and handsome (lol), particularly season 1 David and his sense of nobility and how that would appeal to a teen girl (that's virtually why Cordelia wants him in the first couple of seasons of BTVS) but that's not the real question, the real question is what Buffy sees in Angel and this is when it needs to be restated that Bangel is a love of epic, transcendental, almost folkloric proportions
and it's basically two souls meeting and Buffy recognizing/seeing/loving his soul
because Angel, like her, fights for Good, strives for Good, is a soldier of Good
and then in the minutiae of that, she can rely on him or talk to him or be with him
in ways that she can't be with others because she doesn't feel like she has to protect him from her own human vulnerabilities, whereas with Giles and the Scoobies, she doesn't always feel comfortable showing her vulnerabilities or expressing the burden of her Calling, because she's supposed to be strong and put on the Brave Face but with Angel, she doesn't have to do that, he's her solace, he's her comfort
he's her support, he's her backup
and he understands and still helps her find her strength
they talk about her non-slayer issues, like why she likes skating or what Joyce must be feeling
and within that they can joke/be soft/tease
like this is what it's about.
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BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER | 3.10 “Amends”
Buffy: But you're good?
Angel: I'm, I'm alright. You?
Buffy: Yeah! Yeah, I'm good. I, um, I was just getting some Christmas gifts for the gang.
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