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auxwired · 13 days
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the only reason i refuse to read the dunmeshi manga is because the weekly episode release is the only thing keeping me going on right now. wanna give up? well you cant. we find out what happens to marcille in the next episode. fuck off and make it to thursday.
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ellewriteswrongs · 2 years
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everyone gets why reginald shut klaus out of the portal in ep9, right??
I keep seeing people mentioning the scene without pointing this out and personally it was obvious to me (and my dad who I watched with lol) that ~someone~ was going to get left behind no matter what but idk if that translated for everyone so……prepare for Long Post Time
when reginald mentions the fables at the beginning of the episode, there’s a strong emphasis on there being 7 of everything, go figure lol. it goes to show that with the sparrows, he most likely could’ve adopted them too in s1 but he didn’t because he specifically wanted seven of the kids. each story he reads off requires exactly seven, no more and no less.
the group starts off with nine; six umbrellas, plus ben, sloane, and lila. two too many.
when the vote backfired on him, he does precisely as he tells luther before he kills him—only a death can be powerful enough to bring them all together to do something none of them want to do. in s1 none of them wanted to fight together again, but because they came back for the funeral they couldn’t avoid trying to stop the apocalypse. it didn’t have to be luther, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. any one of them could’ve been killed in his place, it was simply convenient. if one of them hadn’t gone to the buffalo room on their own, he probably just would’ve used allison’s deal to get her to come in there and kill her instead.
but of course, that leaves us with one more to go.
because reginald makes no effort to hold any particular character to the back of the group as they enter the tunnel, he clearly doesn’t care who he has to leave behind, but rather that the number of people that makes it through is all that matters. I’m convinced he didn’t care that it wound up being klaus that was left even though reginald knew about his powers. if he had been absorbed by the kugelblitz with everything else, he wouldn’t have been dead he would’ve ceased to have ever existed. no afterlife, just *poof* out of existence.
but as usual, klaus is smarter than reginald, or anyone else including himself, gives him credit for. he knew if he died before he disappeared, he’d wind up in the afterlife, which is easy to assume klaus had figured out as the entire world population would’ve wound up as ghosts if getting kugelblitzed truly was the same thing as dying. hence why he knew to kill himself before the kugelblitz had the chance to wipe him out.
despite what he said before he shut the door, it wasn’t just because he thought klaus would get in the way of the plan, it’s because he objectively would. he needed a way to ensure that once they were all being drained of their powers, no one would be left free to stop him from resetting the universe to his own specifications, a-la allison.
he needed seven, no more no less, but he just happened to underestimate his son for the last time in the process.
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cirrus-grey · 9 months
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I have now finished watching Good Omens Season 2
If you haven't already, please block the tag "good omens spoilers" - I won't post anything else until Friday night at the earliest, but after that all bets are off.
@albertinesimonet, I did not manage a full liveblog but I did jot down my reactions after watching each episode, and those are compiled under the cut :)
(SPOILERS!)
Episode 1:
Holy flipping fuck are they actually making the ineffable husbands canon???
Okay.
Look.
I saw that it was trending alongside Supernatural and OFMD. I suspected it was going this way, and the season had ended with some sort of confession/immediate separation.
That did not prepare me for the season to open with Crowley saying "hello gorgeous" to a nebula and Aziraphale being disappointed that Crowley wasn't talking to him. Or for Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy to be playing while Crowley rushed to Aziraphale's aid, like-
This is a fanfic. This is a motherfucking fanfic, and I am pleased to say that my brain is processing it as such, a well-written but ultimately non-canon fanfic (*puts on my "I still have book!omens brainrot" shirt*) that just so happens to have been written by one of the original authors.
Anyway, outside of my snorting disbelief that the first ship that I ever shipped is apparently going canon in one 'verse, I do actually have some legitimate theories, which run as follows:
A. I know this season is the plot-bridge between the original novel and what would have been the sequel, and B. I know the sequel was going to involve the second coming of Christ, therefore C. I suspect this Resurrectionist group that kept getting hinted at in the promos is trying to bring Jesus back, Gabriel found out and tried to stop it, and that's why he lost his memories. I'm a tad bit surprised Heaven as a whole doesn't seem to be involved in the return of their special boy, but I guess we'll see how that plays out as the season goes along.
Episode 2:
Oh hey, I've read this one before! "It's ancient Biblical times and Crowley and Aziraphale are angsting about their orders and finding solace in each other's company" may have never gotten its own tag, but there are certainly enough fics about it that it could.
"Can I be a blue one?" Weird kids are the best.
So the Resurrectionist is a pub, not a group. Still think they have something to do with the second coming, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
Gotta say, I didn't expect Every Day to be plot-relevant. I knew they had it for the soundtrack, but I'm really liking this sort of spooky-mystery-music-mixup they've got going with it - love the way its incorporated into the end credits, too.
Totally down for master-thief Jane Austen, btw.
How many people are writing fics about Crowley and Aziraphale getting caught in a rainstorm and hiding under an awning even as I type...
Episode 3:
How to run a bookshop, a guide by A.J. Crowley: Carry large stacks of books around aimlessly and then toss them on the floor when you get bored.
I'm honestly surprised his awning plan nearly worked. Curses be upon weak awnings, I suppose.
I do like that the Bentley recognizes that it has to play nice with whichever one of its dads is in the driver's seat lol
Okay so they keep drawing attention to the fact that there's flies in the bookshop, and now Beelzebub is acting off. Are the flies like... telepathically communicating Gabriel's worldviews to them? Is that how they figured out he was there?
That bit he said when Crowley mentioned tempests is definitely from the Revelations. I unfortunately don't know enough about the Revelations to draw any new conclusions from this. I know they deal with the apocalypse and the antichrist, but that was S1 stuff so there must be something else...
(That bit definitely sounded like Rapture stuff though, just saying)
Lotta talk about people coming back from the dead, here. It's doing little to dissuade me from my idea that this is all related to the second coming. Their "little" miracle was strong enough to bring 25 people back? Okay. How did Gabriel add his own power to it... and who did he bring back? (Does 1 Jesus = 25 normal people?)
...Okay yeah I just googled it and the second coming (and the rapture) is definitely in Revelations. Apparently the appearance of the antichrist is its herald. *insert 'oh yeah it's all coming together' gif here*
...
Several-hours later addition: When they were talking about gravity Gabriel seemed upset that the book didn't stay where it was put, "it goes down." And that flies go up.
...did he "go down," turning into a human, and is Beelzebub "going up," and that's why they're so worried about finding Gabriel? Figure out what happened to him, so it doesn't happen to them as well? Hmm...
Episode 4:
"The rumors that you two are an item..." Yeah holy fuck they're actually doing this. I don't know why it keeps catching me by surprise??? I guess it's not like, the forefront of the plot, so every time it comes to the front it feels a bit like a new thing, but still.
Aziraphale's smug fucking little eyebrow raise at that "I didn't think you were his type." He's like yeah, and what do you know, hm?
Did not expect the entire episode to be backstory, but that was very cute, especially given how much people fixated on the church scene in S1. That little showcase of their trust, both of them worried it'll go wrong but still willing to try because they feel safe with each other. I like that they managed to keep the tension of the setting, that "I'm pointing a gun at my best friend and this could go horribly wrong" feeling, even when it's well-established that the worst that could happen is paperwork.
Also, Crowley trying really, really hard to give Aziraphale positive feedback on his magic tricks even when he knows they suck. That's true love, right there.
Another showcase of people coming back from the dead. We've had the kids getting "brought back" from shape-shifting, the "resurrectionists" digging up dead bodies, and now actual honest-to-god zombies. I am Sensing A Theme.
...are the zombies still around? What's-is-face the demon did say eternal undeath...
Aaaaaand there's going to be an army of demons dropping in on the local business association meeting. I hope Aziraphale has enough tea cakes for everyone.
Episode 5:
SEAMSTRESSES SHOUTOUT ITS A FUCKING DISCWORLD REFERENCE
I know most people are probably going wild over the Dr. Who references but. It's the seamstresses guild...
I'm sure Mrs. Sandwich and Rosie Palm would get along famously.
In other news wow they're just being blatant about the ineffableness of these husbands now, aren't they? The great thing about that is I'm watching it with my parents and I don't think either of them have clicked that it's going canon - like, they're just interpreting it as a running bit, 'haha isn't it funny that everyone keeps mistaking them as a couple' kind of thing. The same thing happened when I showed them OFMD, neither of them realized Ed and Stede were actually going to be a real canon thing until the kiss. I mean, maybe they've worked out that this is going somewhere by now? But I don't want to ask in case they haven't, because I'd love to see their reaction if it blindsides them.
I am Not Normal about the dancing. Aziraphale's giddy little grin when he drags Crowley to the floor? The fucking. Hand presses. I've probably read too much Jane Austen if I'm going this insane about them just pressing their palms together.
And just... that whole fucking scene. The amount of queer people - either queercoded or just flat-out obviously queer - is making my heart feel full. When Aziraphale referred to the magic shop owner's partner using 'they' before we met them I thought it was just, you know, being polite, he'd never met them and didn't want to assume, but then they showed up in person and folks were still using they and they were so obviously giving a huge middle finger to gender norms I just-
Man I need to watch more queer shows I love this feeling.
And the army of demons is more of a large crowd but, well, still threatening. I like the use of masks to hide demonic traits, clever costuming detail there.
But. My dudes. Don't split up, what the fuck are you doing? You've been here for all of human history, you know how stories go, surely you know things always go wrong when you split the party??? I love protective!crowley, I do, but my dude taking off to bring this mess to heaven's attention is not the way to go about saving your angel. And Aziraphale, buddy, I don't know what you're planning to summon there but I really don't think it's going to go well.
...Maybe he's planning to teleport himself, Gabriel, and the humans up to heaven, too, to get them away from the demon crowd. It would be funny if Crowley and what's their name, Muriel, step out of the elevator and Aziraphale is just. There already.
(I don't think that's gonna happen though. I think everything is just gonna get Worse)
Anyway sidenote Lottie if you've read this far, when Gabriel started talking about feeling like a house I immediately thought of you, I know that's a theme you like ♡
Episode 6:
Jesus Christ!
(Called it!)
So I got a lot of the details wrong, but I was spot on with my two big predictions from the beginning. (Hey that ending reminded me of OFMD and Supernatural, I've got a great idea, why don't we all blog about the three of them and get them trending together-)
Gotta say, I'd only given a passing thought to Gabriel and Beelzebub being a Thing, their shippers must be going wild.
I knew there was a reason they kept drawing attention to that fly.
*Spots fire extinguishers* "Hey is that a Magnus Archives ref-" *Is brutally murdered with a lead pipe before I can finish*
I actually kind of love that Nina and Maggie didn't get together at the end of it all? I had felt like it was all going a bit too fast for them and I'm so glad they acknowledged that. They've got time, now, to work things out, and I love that they left it with the certainty that they'd be there for each other in the future... but not quite yet.
Oh! Oh! Oh! And they fit in the halos-used-as-lethal-frisbees-sequence! That was fabulous, I want to see more exploding headgear.
...anyway I think that's all the little bits I wanted to mention before getting to the Main Event.
I'm actually... not all that devastated about that ending? Like, okay, my heart was breaking watching it, the miscommunication and assumptions leading to a dramatic separation, it's tragic and angsty and oh my god my ship kissed my first ever ship kissed they did it they did the thing-
But. Two seconds after the credits started rolling my mind was already flying to, "oh thank goodness, they've got a Source On The Inside now and they might actually have a shot at stopping the end of the world instead of, you know, being blindsided by it because no one in heaven or hell is talking to them"
Like, sure, major breakup here, Crowley's gonna be pissed and Aziraphale might have to do their silly little "I'm sorry" dance three or four times before they can actually get down to business, but I don't think there's a question that both of them still trust each other immensely and know they can rely on each other to help out in a pinch. They'll be walking on eggshells for a bit, but it's pretty obvious that Aziraphale wouldn't have taken the promotion if he'd known Crowley wasn't going to come with him and as soon as he manages to properly communicate that fact they'll be fine.
(Sidenote, this, right here, exemplifies the difference between Book!Aziraphale and TV!Aziraphale. Book!Aziraphale is way more cynical about the whole heaven-and-hell system, he'd never say "heaven's still the good guys," and he'd be very, very suspicious of a sudden promotion landing in his lap after such a tumultuous sequence of events. TV!Aziraphale might not be the sweet little innocent bean fandom makes him out to be, but damn is he naive compared to his book counterpart. Makes me wonder how much of the hypothetical sequel has to change to work with this plotline - I'd bet my ass he wasn’t an archangel in that one.)
Can Crowley... hear the soundtrack? "No nightingales" like how does he know that's significant? Sir you are breaking the fourth wall-
(And how powerful is he? He's a nobody in hell but he keeps stopping time and could access classified documents up in heaven, something made his and Aziraphale's miracle blow up and apparently it wasn't Gabriel, and he also just brought a whole ass dude back from the dead??? Maybe those "Crowley is Raphael" theorists from S1 had a point)
Anyway, to cap it all off: my current predictions for S3 are the aforementioned ineffable husbands makeup and subsequent spy shenanigans as they scramble to try to stop Apocalypse 2: Jesus Boogaloo; they fail and Jesus comes back, but instead of following the Great Plan he instead chooses to side with "all of humanity against all of heaven and hell" (maybe Adam shows up too to help out?); and Crowley, despite his repeated protests, actually does end up running a bookshop because he doesn't trust Muriel to do it properly.
I summation, yes I am still alive, and very excited for the next season, whenever it happens. Also I need gifsets of the dance scene and that kiss ASAP please and thank you.
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queenofthearchipelago · 9 months
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I read your post about the 1941 flashback, which is the only one, that is a continuation of a s1 flashback. So, you do think we’ll get another 1941 flashback in s3? I hope so!
You know, when I wrote that little ficlet, I wasn't actually 100% sold on the idea that we Absolutely Would get another 1941 flashback in season 3. I was thinking it would be a coin toss, maybe we would get it maybe we wouldn't. But this ask made me really Think about it. And, I've changed my mind.
I do think we're getting another 1941 flashback scene.
(Edit from future me who just finished writing this, prepare for a meta and my theory for what the next flashback scene might be like)
See, originally, in my mind, I was only certain that we would get some sort of continuation. I didn't know if that would be in 1941 or maybe present day season 3. Because there are indeed a lot of loose ends with that story. The gun in the bookshop and the zombies still being out there, just two examples.
But the more I think of it, the less my "present day season 3" theory makes sense. Those zombies were created SPECIFICALLY to find out whether Aziraphale and Crowley were fraternizing. And now they're free to roam the Earth, killing at least one person per day so that they can survive. I can't imagine either Aziraphale nor Crowley being okay with the idea of that, especially not for 80 years. And especially with season 3 being about the Second Coming, I doubt there's gonna be time to deal with Nazi Zombies (though Neil can do what he wants, he always does lol)
I think it makes much more sense if something were to happen soon after that romantic dinner in 1941. Come walk with me now because I have an idea...
What if that first flashback in season 1 was just the prologue? And now this bit in season 2 was part 1 of a two part story? (That was a lot of ones and twos in one sentence... and I'm doing it again)
Here's what we know:
In season 3 we will be dealing with the Second Coming, and though we don't know how that will play out, we can assume that Crowley and Aziraphale will have to trust each other. Much like the bullet catch.
There's a gun in the bookshop.
Demons aren't allowed to kill humans (or potentially zombies with a contract with Hell that allows them to be immortal) (Reference: Crowley tells Shax this in episode 5, and it's one of the only things he says to her that he clearly isn't making up because she nods like she knows and then she has her line about how humans can be casualties when fighting angels)
What if, in that next flashback scene in 1941, Aziraphale and Crowley come face to face with the Nazi Zombies again. Only this time, angel and demon have decided that they really have to get rid of the Nazis for good this time. This would make it the first time in their existence they decided to kill someone.
And the situation unfolds into... another bullet catch?
Aziraphale has the gun, he aims it for a zombie, and Crowley is in the way. He can't use a miracle to kill someone, he just can't. He has to do this the human way or not at all. He aims, he fires, he... aims true.
He's killed someone. Nazi zombies who were planning on killing innocents and hurting himself and Crowley. But he killed them, his actions did that.
He tells Heaven that he was thwarting Hell's plans, so he gets away with it. He was just returning Hell's souls back where they came from so they'd stop doing harm.
And all this could still lead into my little ficlet here.
And the implications of that moving forward, that Crowley trusts Aziraphale with his life in the exact same way the angel trusted him. That Aziraphale IS capable of killing (and maybe this is why Crowley suggested Aziraphale kill the anti-christ, because he knows the angel won't like it, but he can). The implications to that could parallel whatever is going on present day with the Second Coming in season 3.
Regardless of if I'm right or not, I do think something has to come up again with those zombies and the gun. They might not even end up serving the same plot line, but in the meantime, it's certainly fun to think about.
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quillyfied · 10 months
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Things I’m noticing on this rewatch, which I’m hoping to take slow and ponder on but we will see how it goes, PART FOUR (obviously major Good Omens season 2 spoilers throughout, specifically for S2E4)
- Lesi?
- Shax really does have creepy down pat.
- Aziraphale not sensing her, though. They really do play Calvinball with the rules of that, it seems.
- “You don’t seem his type at all” mirroring “I am so not your type” between Nina and Maggie last episode ;A; “you have no idea,” Maggie said. Aziraphale thinks. I weep.
- Sometime in the last 18, 19 years…would that have put them square in the “raising the Antichrist” years? Hang on. 4 years past the failed apocalypse…makes it 14…they were working on it for 11 years…no, that would put them before that, wouldn’t it? Wtf is that timing, Shax?
- “This Angel Gabriel, who I’ve never heard of” = “who’s Morales?”
- Shax really is the kind of infernally clever that’s perfect for tripping Aziraphale up when he’s already flustered and panicked. Love to see them interact.
- Opening theme detail today: one of the headstones reads Jane Austen. Wonder if the headstones change every episode too?
- “Here lies the former shell of Beelzebub” reads another, and “here lies Adam” with some text I can’t make out. Went back to the beginning of the graveyard bit now and “Peter Paintball”, and of course, “Every day.” If anyone gets good eyes on the Adam headstone, y’all gotta let me know.
- This episode’s theater feature: Nazi Zombie Flesheaters, with a still of the Nazis from s1 still alive. Nice.
- Seems odd to call the episode “The Hitchhiker” when it seems the literal hitchhiking is done by the time the opening credits roll. Time to refresh myself on why this episode might be called that.
- Did they reuse footage? Or reenact it?
- Yknow…none of the demons are wearing obvious animals this season. I think only Beelzebub, Hastur, and Ligur might have done it tbh.
- I love the details of Hell tbh. The fire cooler. The sheer number of Nazis. The way Shax moves so mechanically but so cool and collected.
- Does Shax actually have any higher demon ears? Or is she baiting Furfur? Hard to tell for her.
- Yknow the teeth aren’t helping in figuring out if Shax has an animal aspect.
- The besotted Aziraphale bit here. I cannot BELIEVE this all happens immediately post church bomb.
- Okay but the Nazis not disputing the fact that they belong in hell, just that they’re dead based on trickery. Nice.
- The tongue bit. Yuck.
- OKAY. Crowley has present day hair color for this adventure. That feels significant. Is this minisode a flashback?
- Okay the signage of Hell. Always a favorite. But the “heaven looks down on you” sign. Hmm. Bit odd.
- Ah. Because I couldn’t see the bottom half of it. “Because you’re…” something. Move it, Furfur XD
- Pathetic. “Heaven looks down on you because you’re pathetic.” …hmm. Still an interesting take, tbh.
- Happy to be in the probable minority that likes the zombies bit XD which is interesting bc I normally hate zombie fiction. They do it the way I like, though. They’re conscious and sentient in their zombieness.
- Also the brain repeating on him XD what a gloriously stupid and delightful detail
- And okay yeah the dead rising from the grave thing from Jimbriel’s prophecy and the Nazi zombies here feels like a big ole clue for s3. I’m Mormon so my upbringing around the Second Coming is probably weirder than other Christians but a big part of it for us is the emphasis on the resurrection of the dead, ALL the dead. Putting a properly macabre spin on it feels like a very Good Omens thing to do tbh.
- There’s the dirty donkey again! It DIDNT move, Crowley LITERALLY planned his heist ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BOOKSHOP. I WORK IN SOHO I HEAR THINGS INDEED.
- David Tennant what is that voice XD
- Lots of emphasis on sleight of hand this…entire show :P it does make one suspicious of The Final Fifteen Minutes. But also I don’t want to rob them of their power? Because damn. DAMN.
- (The lip reading. It. I. I will wait for the end but GUH)
- He’s so pleased with himself for getting it right XD
- They are SO. IN. LOVE. KILL ME.
- Natural dexterity. Like the magic words, I’m waiting for that one to come true.
- The way Pat tries to have some integrity XD
- THE WAY AZIRAPHALE CASUALLY DROPS THAT HE HAS BOTH A FIREARMS LICENSE AND A DERRINGER. AZIRAPHALE ZIRAPHALE FELL, ARE YOU POSITIVE CROWLEY IS THE JAMES BOND ENTHUSIAST?
- More importantly, does he still have that???
- …does that mean Aziraphale’s fired a gun when Crowley hasn’t? What does this mean for the paintball gun bit? Does your derringer lend weight to a moral argument, Aziraphale??
- Hang on have to squeal for the way Aziraphale just grabs Crowley’s hand in both of his. So excited. So cute.
- HA, the wrong ring XD
- Sad to see Pat get eaten. But the framing of it is really cool actually.
- Fell the Marvelous. That poster. How in the heck.
- Aziraphale having stage fright tho.
- Jiggery pokery indeed XD
- EXPERIENCE USING FIREARMS. AZIRAPHALE THESE ARE SOLDIERS.
- Omg the miracle blocker is a punch card. The worldbuilding implications.
- I wonder at how hell would have taken Aziraphale handing Crowley a rifle tbh.
- “Aim for my mouth, shoot past my ear” WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
- the way they’re both shaking and nervous. The camera itself shaking. CROWLEY shaking
- The feather boa. I WEEP. He’s so happy.
- I know the implication is that Crowley, like Jim, is missing his memories, but. Also. The idea that maybe Crowley is just terrible at remembering people who aren’t Aziraphale. Poor Furfur.
- The sleight of hand is very subtle. Which is the point. But also. Idk man people have said it better and apparently written 16k essays about it, I’m just proud of him for pulling it off.
- Okay but. But they’re zombies. Neil they’re zombies. Aziraphale and Crowley just let three Nazi zombies wander off Neil. NEIL. WHAT IS THE PLAN WITH THEM??
- Dagon is in top form this season tbh
- I CANNOT BELIEVE. THAT THE ONE NAZI REALLY CAN READ LIPS. I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. Peak comedy always.
- I got it right the time that mattered ;A;
- I knew you would come through for me. You always do.
- You said trust me.
- And you did.
- MURDER ME.
- ITS CHATEAUNEUF DU PAPE AGAIN ARE YOU KIDDING ME I AM ALREADY TRYING SO HARD NOT TO QUOTE THIS SCENE WORD FOR HECKING WORD
- “If you were truly as evil as you like to paint yourself” the levels of deep seated misunderstanding and flawed foundational concepts I’m CRY
- Though it’s AZIRAPHALE who brings up shades of grey. A glimmer of hope.
- Can someone who knows accents tell me what is going on with Shax’s
- Beelzebub’s thanks and “good work” as a discordant note, but also their command for Shax to take an army to attack the bookshop knowing full well she isn’t going to get that kind of support…wut.
- THE BENTLEY FOLLOWING AZIRAPHALE AFTER HE PATS IT. CROWLEY FEELS WHAT IT FEELS.
- Peter Anderson’s screen effects are my favorite thing.
- Hate to see the way Nina is so broken down by Lindsey tbh.
- Yeeeah…Crowley seems to be purposely living in his car tbh. Retreating directly to it. I can’t tell if Aziraphale never thought to offer cohabitation or if Crowley turned him down but my money is on they’ve never discussed it despite both of them thinking about it very loudly.
- A night to remember! Never bodes well.
Okay. That’s it for tonight. An episode that seems out of place but has many good tasty morsels and I think more than a smidge of s3 foreshadowing. Why is the episode called The Hitchhiker? Maybe for Furfur trying to climb the greasy pole of bureaucracy? For the Nazis hanging onto life? Literally just for the one part at the beginning that sets the whole climax into motion? Who knows???
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esterzach · 7 months
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I love digging through things, listening, or reading people's thoughts about how they perceive the things they watch. There is always something new, something that will lead to a new angle, a new way of seeing things, or an idea. Even if it's the opposite opinion, it can lead to the point where I can change my mind about one thing or make solidify an opinion ( out of simple stubbornness sometimes). The need for a dialog and conversation makes things clearer. Almost always. Different opinions are precious. One word or expression can lead to a new perspective.
Unlike many, I love the whole drama between Moiraine and Lan in the first two episodes. But these two have known each other for 20 years. So that seems... stupid? Unlike them maybe...
From the beginning of S1, Moiraine's depression was expected. Her being mean to Lan though... I get at some point lashing out to your closest when you are hurt and there is no one to blame... Still, that was her attitude for the last 6 months? And she is vicious. It's not only cutting him off and not talking to him. And he sees through that right away and rightfully so is pissed off. Because it is offensive, to exclude someone who walked and fought shoulder to shoulder with you, shared everything, all of a sudden sending the message that he is not that important. 
It gets worse. She is implying this is not something new. She was withholding things from him for a while, maybe since the beginning, or at least that's what she wanted him to think, keeping him in the dark about many things. That line bothered me "We've never walked this path together. You've never seen the forest for the trees, because I've never shown it to you." He knows about their mission everything, he needs to know. Well, at least up until 6 months ago, when she was skipping a couple of things. Like Rand being alive and Ishamael being freed. Even when she says that it still feels that it's not enough. That statement goes for a lot more than this. (And we know now that there is more that she hides - that she released the Bond and she had been preparing that for quite some time). Now that is enough material to be angry and offended at if you had complete trust in someone for many years. Hell, they are in each other's heads. How is that even possible? To be so blind, so deceived. And he loses it. Anyone would be furious. But even after that, he is still there, still telling her "I am not letting you walk away from me again". Her "I know" says a lot. The unspoken "That's why I am going to go further." The threat to take away his choice and hurt him, make him go with someone else by force is genuine, she will do it.
She is actively aiming to piss him off landing blow after blow. All the time.  And it works. Because he eventually gets to a place where he asks: "I swore myself to you, because I trusted you. Because I thought we were in this together. Equals. That was never true, was it, Moiraine?" "We were never equals." Most of us see right through it. After the initial WTF, woman?! How could she say that?, there was the "Oh, she means she always thought she was better than him!" Especially since that comes right after their previous conversation where she downright tells how she chose him for her Warder. Because he was braver than her. One last moment of honesty, one last present for the road. And she sends him away. She knows he will ignore that little moment until much later, that he will be too distracted now, will focus on the other matter - that she sends him away. He will be distracted enough to ignore her words, until much later when he is calm and goes through their conversations, and will remember that confession and it will eventually realize the meaning behind words. That memory walk was placed there on purpose. We hear it, but because we aren't that angry with her, we weren't treated like we were inferior for months, we get it. He doesn't. And that's the plan.
Moiraine understands he knows her well and sees what she is trying to do, and her trying to push him away or try to make him leave her would never work. He will see through her, and ignore her. He is angry at her, but he is still there. She had her confirmation - she tried to leave and he followed her, and they were almost killed. That probably served to make her feel she was right about her plan.  And she landed the last blow with "We've never walked this path together." And that leads him right where she wanted him to be. In order for "We were never equals" to be perceived as it was from him, she had to undermine his confidence in the meaning of their relationship, of their mission, of the way she sees him. She had to erode his confidence in her, to make him doubt about how she actually thinks of him. With lines like "Door" or "I'll have my dinner here". This is not the writers enhancing Moiraine's unpleasant features from the book, because they were never there in the show at all. I feel like unless she needs to behave like that in some situations, she avoids consciously this type of behaviour, because she doesn't like it. Treating people like servants must leave a bad taste, considering her origins and her stay in The Tower and she never used it before. Now she does. And blatantly at that. She is pulling off this to Lan of all people. And she needs to do that for quite a while, so it looks believable to him. Everyone eventually will get tired of certain behaviours, no matter how patient they are. And it works. Just for a while though. 
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I just read your post on King and Eda, and I TOTALLY agree with you.
If you were in charge of the Owl House, how would you rewrite the two of them? (no pressure to answer if you don't feel like it.)
Forgot to mention this: This is with the kindness of hindsight. It is always easier to critique than it is to create. Especially with how little I plan my stories when I start them, it's arguable if I'd actually make something as cohesive as what I'm going to pitch here. This is why I rarely claim to actually be able to write something better.
So normally my response to this sort of ask is "You can't change the element without losing the spirit of the show" but that's actually not true with just changing Eda and King. There's a foundation there for something really good stemming from the concepts of the two of them but TOH actively avoids doing anything with them. Like I said... They're just kind of bad characters in execution because Eda doesn't have any interest in her own craft or her world while King is a contradictory, one note comic relief character for S1 and then a plot point more than a character in S2/3 that entirely hinges on his heritage. This is part of why King suddenly is the wisest fucking 8 year old to ever exist.
So what would I change? First, I would make them a real family from go. Not by blood but by connection. Acknowledge earlier that Eda adopted King when he was alone and scared. She actually cares about him but struggles to show it because she's been really hurt by family as well and just by life in general so she has these boundaries even with those she's close with. This makes Luz's arc of turning her more motherly feel more natural because Eda isn't just randomly becoming a better person and retconned as having always been sweet but instead her relationship with King highlights what her eventual fate will be as Mama Eda and allows her inner kindness to show earlier.
For King: Write him as a fucking eight year old. Now, I actually have to get into the other big change in order to discuss more of the changes I would make with him but he should never have been equally as world weary as Eda. It constantly put his age into question in S1 and it made how much he actually cared about his heritage feel out of step with the lessons Eda would have taught him to make him such a jaded ass in the first half of S1. It also means that his character is more inline with his character episodes instead of feeling like they're out of character. The true big change though is... Have them reflect twin sides of the Isles. Make Eda love magic, and thus show Luz the grandeur of the Isles (you can even keep the "No Chosen One" thing for this because she genuinely thinks ALL magic is special and wants to impart that on Luz if Luz really wants to be her pupil). It makes it so that she is actually motivated to teach Luz and to experiment with magic. It turns her character more towards someone who is always experimenting with magic and the curse was instead not just something that made them not be able to steal as effectively but a genuine tragedy for her. But because she acts tough and is forty and flirty, she doesn't show it except in really vulnerable moments. Again, this allows Eda and Luz to have a better relationship and keeps her character more consistent between the two seasons while still allowing character growth/an arc that feels justifiable versus what we got.
Meanwhile... King is a fucking 8 year old orphan who's mom has to constantly leave the house to feed them and Hooty is his only protection. He has no strength, he has no magic, he has no friends, he has NOTHING. So make him wanting to be a ruler explicitly a fantasy. Not just biologically encoded into him (which is a WEIRD fucking plot point to begin with) but something that comes from his surroundings. He wants to be a king and have minions because kings are safe and have subjects who adore them. It makes it so that you can have the ruling jokes while also letting King be a character. This also makes him latching onto Luz feel more natural. He is desperate for safety and others and Luz is not only willing to give him the time of day unlike most, but is also mostly safe. He doesn't have to worry about how much more powerful she is than him as they're getting close so he feels like a friend of hers rather than her vassal. This admittedly would need changes to how Luz treats King but, well... That kind of has to do with what both of these changes really are: Take the narrative goals TOH had for these characters... And use them to make real characters. This is a general problem of TOH that Eda and King suffer especially from. They're not real characters. They're just creations meant to serve specific goals and those goals are more important to the writers than the characters. Which begs the question of "If the writers don't care about the MAIN CAST as people... Why should the audience?" And that's something that I as a writer fear a lot personally. I consider characters to be the end and beginning of a story but they do still have to work for the story and finding that balance is a very real struggle. I do not promote Inspiration ID Vol. 1 because the main character in that series is shit. And he's shit because he is just my obsession with a porn trope I disliked and led to the creation of that book. And a lot of TOH shares that motivation so of course the characters are going to tear down the world they're in more than they're going to lift it up.
And when talking about main pillars of your story... The ground is going to cave in eventually.
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Just finished watching Good Omens 2 and I....have a few unpopular opinions. They're under the cut because I don't want to be murdered by tumblr. They're also a bit incoherent.
I think with all due love for Neil Gaiman, this show and the characters, I did think this season was... um.... unevenly paced, shall we say. The flashbacks and the present story weren't balanced out very well at all, and some of them were way, waaaay too long (Job and the whole Elsbeth thing were way, way too long).
I also don't think they set up the whole Gabriel-Belzebub thing at all, I knew it was coming because I was spoiled from Tumblr and up to the midpoint of Episode 6 I still asked myself when they were planning on doing that.
I'm also not a fan of Maggie and Nina, most of the time they bored me, and at the end I thought their roles as Aziraphale and Crowley mirrors were just a bit on the nose. Also, I didn't see why Maggie was in love with Nina, who was so rude and abrasive to her at times.
I also don't understand why Gabriel and Belzebub just cancelled the second Apocalypse, that was before they... I don't know, fell in love? Three flashbacks didn't exactly sell me their relationship. Gabriel's turn from complete and utter dick in S1 to guy who falls in love with demon and runs off with them isn't exactly given the room it needed in my opinion, because I frankly didn't understand it and I didn't quite buy it as well. That storyline needed so much more room to breathe.
There's still a lot to love here, don't get me wrong. Obviously Aziraphale and Crowley's love story is beautiful, and there's loads of funny, sweet, cute and adorable moments (how happy Aziraphale was that he got to dance with Crowley was just one of them, and the whole Jane Austen thing was just *chef's kiss*). The ending where they break up is heartbreaking and so well acted. And you can see both their points, because Aziraphale thinks he can fix heaven and Crowley knows that's impossible, because the flaws of heaven aren't a bug, they're a feature, as he experienced. But Aziraphale sees it as a chance for the two of them to be together openly and safely without having to constantly run away and look over their shoulder. And they're both right. And of course David Tennant and Michael Sheen give it their all and could read the phone book together and it would be entertaining. I just feel like they've relied a bit too much on that this season, to the detriment of the plot, the pacing and all the other characters, especially Gabriel (not Jim, he was delightful, but actual Gabriel, with whom we've spent about ten minutes).
I do absoultely get why the shippers are both happy and heartbroken, but I'm painfully reminded of Sherlock S3, The Sign of Three: When it was done, my wife turned to me and said, "What a badly paced, slightly incoherent mess." And I said, "Yes, but as a shipper, I loved every second of it."
It wasn't as bad as Sherlock S3 and S4, but after six episodes, I'm not sure why this story needed to be told. They had the same fight in S1. And I don't see how S3 can end any more perfectly than S1 did.
So. Um. Yes. A lot to like here, a lot of lovely moments, and funny dialogue, and Aziraphale and Crowley are obviously so completley in love with each other, and the reconciliation in S3 will be beautiful, but the pacing was really off, the story wasn't very efficiently told, and most of the latter half of Epislde 6 came out of absolutely nowhere for me. I'm a bit sad, honestly, because I wanted to love it as much as S1, but the pacing just really threw me out of the story so many times.
And the thing is, I couldn't really tell you what this season was actually about. I could just about tell you the plot, even though... not really? So Gabriel loses his memory, shows up at Aziraphale's bookshop, then a few angels and demons are looking for him as well, then Aziraphale... tells someone... the miracle was about Maggie and Nina... and then he goes to Edinburgh, where he discovers....um, what, exactly?... and then he comes back to London and they throw a ball and some demons attack the bookshop because they think Gabriel is inside and they want him for... um... reasons? And then everybody yells, Gabriel runs off with Belzebub (and they're allowed to do that for some reason) and Aziraphale is now chief archangel for... um... reasons.
So Season 1, for me, was about free will versus predetermination, of right vs good and of love vs faith.
I have no idea what S2 was about. And it's all very well if you lovely tumblr fans want to explain it to me, but you really shouldn't have to.
I just hope S3 is a bit more evenly paced.
Don't get me wrong, there was some really good stuff in there. The breakup, omg, that was hard to watch. And Aziraphale's joy at getting to dance with Crowley, and their whole "we're so married" but not actually communicating with each other at all. I just sometimes felt like they didn't have enough plot for six episodes of stuff for this season, so they padded it out with unnecessarily long flashbacks during which I'd already forgotten what had happened in the present. And I know it's basically the padding to get from S1 to S3, but what if we never get a S3?
Yeah. So.
I'm glad they're very firmly canonically in love, and the way they look at each other and look out for each other and always think of each other first (Aziraphale would have turned down heaven flat if Metatron hadn't told him he could bring Crowley along). I just wish the rest of the season was as strong as the last ten minutes.
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I know y’all are sick of me (and my complaining iykyk 😂), but I have to rant.
I gave in and started Bridgerton s3. Now, look, when I opened Netflix and went to the show, it was in the middle of s1 episode 5, because that’s where I threw in the towel when the series initially premiered. Like, I simply could not hang.
Okay, look since I know barely anyone reads these little rants, I’m gonna give a long-winded on why this show is pissing me tf off:
I hosted a book sale at my high school when I was 16. We had to plan and execute a “service project,” my group couldn’t come up with anything, and I suggested a book donation/drive because most of the books in our library were geared at younger kids and we needed more age appropriate works (I went to a K - 12 school at the time, but that’s another story). Anyway, I suggested a book drive, called a local used bookstore, and they were like: take as many as you can carry. Please!
So, we got all these books. The teachers decided half of them were too grown to put in the library, but not too grown to sell, so we hosted a book sale for like a week. During that book sale, my friends and I were throwing books in our backpack like it was going out of style. That’s the first time I ever read a Bodice Ripper. I can’t tell you who wrote it, all I can tell you is that the girl went through HELL and it took place in “Natchez Under the Hill,” which is still how I refer to Natchez, Mississippi in my head, ‘cause the author wouldn’t stop writing that lol. Anywho, the book made my stomach hurt. I had “taken” a few romance novels though, so I read another. It was… less depressing, but still… yikes. Then I found Johanna Lindsey, who seemed like Mary Poppins compared to the first few authors I found, but I still wanted happier. Enter Victoria Alexander, Lisa Kleypas, and Julia Quinn.
Quinn’s heroines had, by far, the most pleasant time of it. What really sold me on her was the Bridgerton series, which wasn’t complete when I found it, and my favorite was Romancing Mister Bridgerton. Like, y’all don’t understand, I used to pray for times like this 😭😭 I would’ve sold my soul for a Romancing Mister Bridgerton movie (I’m lowkey an old head, so Netflix didn’t exist when I was in high school lol, and I didn’t think HBO was picking this up).
So imagine my surprise, when a show was announced, the Duke was fine, it looked fun and soapy in the trailers, and then it dropped and they screwed 75% of it up. And, look, s1 was just getting on my nerves which is why I stopped, but s3 is actively pissing me off. Did the showrunners hate this book or what, because why did they do such damage to it? 😬
I don’t expect shows/movies to be exactly like the source material, but damn. It’s like they got the essence wrong, for so many characters and relationships, both romantic and platonic.
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okay i watched the episode i ate some lunch i read some posts and here are my “quick” takes
- i liked the unreliable narration aspect of shauna hallucinating/dreaming that the baby turned out fine bc i love unreliable narration/hallucination and even though it was not hard to guess that it was not real, i dont mind that kind of thing bc im a pretty easygoing tv/movie watcher. BUT i, like many of you, thought it was weird and surprising that she ended up saying(/dreaming/hallucinating) that she loved the baby. if i were to try to explain it away in a way that makes sense to me personally id say maybe she’s subconsciously imagining/hoping that she could love the baby bc she feels like its what she’s supposed to do and she’s afraid she wouldnt be able to when the time comes, but if so, the writing should make that clearer, so instead im forced to assume they really chose to write her as being enamored with this baby immediately which. well... is it too much to ask for her to at LEAST have complicated/conflicted feelings, even if they didnt want to commit to her actually not wanting the baby? it feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity in a show that prides itself on going to dark/twisted/taboo places. and im just generally weary of this idea that, like, every woman just instantly falls in love and magically develops maternal instincts when she has a baby. i dont know. ive never given birth, maybe its true. but it feels like that’s the messaging i’ve gotten from EVERYWHERE, from the world, from my own mother, from mommy bloggers, whatever, and i guess just once i would’ve liked to see something a little more complicated
- personally i thought/hoped that the baby hallucinations were going to go in a very different direction, especially when adult nat took the goldfish out of the water, i thought shauna was going to like, mercy-kill the baby or something bc she’d realized he didnt have a chance if they were all starving and she couldnt even make milk. BUT THATS JUST ME
- akilah and her emotional support mouse... so cute but i cannot be the only one who was dying a little at the thought of her delivering the baby after freshly petting a mouse 😭 like please wash ur hands first pleeease
- congrats to the lottienat girls who just keep winning... must be nice! and the taivan road trip brought me a significant amount of joy i have to say
- i share the concern that it is starting to feel a bit retcon-y and inconsistent. like as soon as they were done with the jackie arc they said “i dont want to play with you anymore” despite setting it up in s1 as THE defining moment of shauna’s time in the wilderness. its the blessing and the curse of multiple timelines...they can be soooo rewarding but you have to be REALLY sure of what happened in each one and you have to stick to it! (dark did this well! i think they had pretty much everything planned out right from s1 so there were certain moments in s1 that you still didn’t fully understand until the end of s3, it was very intricate and most importantly it was internally consistent. but i digress...) i guess it sticks out to me the most with this particular storyline bc it’s the one i was most invested in, but im sure there are some other examples too
i guess the bottom line is that in a well-done dual timeline show, the information you learn about the earlier timeline should enhance and enrich your understanding of the later timeline. and in some of cases it did, but in some cases it’s falling flat...i dont know i could probably rub together a few more brain cells and come up with some more thoughts but other people have already said it pretty well and unless i have a brainwave i dont think i have much to add!
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Finished our Wheel of Time S1 rewatch yesterday with 1.08!
I kept meaning to make posts about stuff from different episodes, but, edf.
Some stuff from this episode:
So I totally knew that I had very poor memory of this episode - during season 2 was very aware that I did not remember like, the actual final confrontation - aside from the image of the - opponent.
I think I more or less remembered that there was the trollock attack on Fal Dara (but not details), Rand's ~temptation thing, as noted the image of the opponent, the image of Padan Fain on the throne and that he got the horn, and the sister and the other women with the magic against the trollocks outside Fall Dara and burning out, and I think I did remember that one of our characters there heals the other (I think I have a memory of *reading* that?). And of course from S2 knew what happened to Moiraine though didn't have memory of it happening.
Oh right and that there was flashback 3000 years back and who it was between, though didn't have memory of what episode that was in.
Oh and remembered that Rand asked Moiraine to tell everyone he died there, I think I remembered that rather than just knowing from season 2 stuff.
Some stuff having rewatched:
-Ok so that story Moiraine told of her backstory makes me really curious who that Aes Sedai was. Are we going to meet her? (Have we already). Also wow more Aes Sedai stuff like that.
-Rand: you thought it was Egwene. Me, thinking: well she did have a very rare item specifically for male channelers for you!
-I was also very expecting Moiraine to tell him that she can't teach him to channel because teaching channeling is side-restricted, but she didn't.
-Trying to understand stuff that happened with the knowledge that this is Ishamael and not the Dark One and not completely sure of some stuff.
-So - ok, with the knowledge we get later, what exactly did happen here? Including with the ~temptation? I'm not sure. What are we supposed to think of various things? (Like, it seems like they well, were gotten the better of, so.)
-(I continue to be unhappy about the stuff I was unhappy about first time around).
-So the first time around I probably didn't register it because didn't know them so well yet etc, but ok so in the scene with Padan Fain those are the characters we later see pursuing him in S2, and of course Loial is important, and here they seem to have *been killed* - so we spent the rest of the episode waiting to see how that got addressed, I was trying to remember, and then it just didn't?
-...Did Rand realize Moiraine well, with the knife? He has the marks.
-Brain is thinking about defense ideas for the Gap apparently.
-Ok so Padan Fain maybe has a different perspective on the Dark also/We hear another one.
-Amusingly I totally didn't remember whether or not Lan comes with them and whether or not he then somehow follows them, so was like, finding out just like if I hadn't seen it.
-When the flashback started I was like, right this - ok I totally don't remember at all what in fact happened/was talked about in this convo. And yep I didn't and ok wow that was important! (I have questions.) Also I'm pretty sure last time I *also* registered she called him Dragon *Reborn* and had questions, and this time registering it again and continue to have questions. (Not quite the questions one might think I have maybe, here).
-Noting some stuff about the outside the window scene.
-So want to think more about what can be filled in as having happened between seasons, but thinking about it - ok how was communication between Siuan and Moiraine supposed to have gone there? Like, didn't remember before, but, this plan came from Siuan and Moiraine's conversation, it seems like Siuan would have wanted, well, a report? And we know Moiraine didn't tell her about not being able to access the source, but - again, what is meant to have happened?
-So I was thinking as things were happening, so is the ~idea that Moiraine doesn't die ~because she is blocked from touching the source and that is metaphorically properly counted as such a thing. But just now occurred to me wait, in fact this *was not the Dragon meeting the Dark One at the Eye*. ...Did anyone else think about this?
-By the way, why is this called the Eye of the World?
-Right, I'd forgotten the connection between the prison and the Blight!
-(Have probably forgotten something still.)
-Eta: oh right was looking forward to seeing the Seanchan arrival now that I know more stuff about them, and indeed! Noticing that the sul'dam and damane have a few aesthetic differences I think.
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ok so i've read like every interview, and there's been a few positives and a very minimal amount of things that made me worry. the first being, even though tim has admitted that rina has been planned since season 1, i'm still not sure if i can trust him that rina will be the ship he finally respects enough to keep together. even redlyn, which was probably the longest running ship on the show, is falling apart, and they're throwing in random obstacles for seblos. what will set rina apart and free them from tim's predictable plot turns? him also calling the finale a "small" win instilled fear in me because after 30 episodes of not being canon, if he does something in season 4 that will drive us away, i'm not sure i'll be able to watch the show again. do you have any thoughts or am i just reading too much into things?
I totally understand the fear, anon! It can be hard to know what could happen to them, especially after the s1 and s2 curses of r*ni and p*w. But here’s the difference: rina is the couple that keeps beating the odds. They’re the “second chance” couple. We’ve seen them not work with the people who are supposedly their other “best options” (outside of each other). We were supposed to see all of the alternative endings that rina could pursue instead of each other (nini, ej, jack, and lily- two new people and two people they know and could work with well- that also represents parts of their personality they already know [nini was home to ricky and ej was chaos and the unexpected plots for gina]), to know why they work better together. So in my opinion, this was another genius from Tim. I think him putting the kiss at the end of s3, gives the viewers the chance to see that rina will defy the odds that have been set up. That everything that was the plan “was never the plan” and that they “keep surprising us”; that they’re each other’s second chance. We got a s3 kiss specifically so we could compare it to the other two couples and say, “rina worked out at the end of the season when the other ones didn’t, why is that?” (The answer is soulematism, btw).
I think we’ve seen just about every up and down rina could go through as singles to keep them from being together. I think their new challenges aren’t going to come in the forms of love triangles because we’ve already seen that on both sides. We know how those plots end. I think their challenges will probably come more from, can they keep up as a couple just like they did as friends? Can they put each other first as romantic partners? Do they support each other in every decision like they did before?
I know redlyn is getting some spotlight on issues but those are VERY different. We’re seeing red and Ashlyn come to terms in their sexuality. Last season, it was them being complete opposites in what they found “fulfilling” in life (ash was lots of clubs and pursuing tons of interests and red was being in his small town with the people he loves- both different, both valid). I think their relationship struggles are going to look different because they’re dealing with different things than rina. We’re not exploring Rina’s differences or sexualities, but moreso who they are as new and improved people within the context of a relationship.
I think Tim saying “small win”, wasn’t to minimize the win or make us think we’re getting nothing else. I think it was to say it was small in comparison to what we can expect next season.
I get the hesitation and I think Tim has really proved himself over the last few seasons where his writing is going. All of his interviews point directly at rina. I think their biggest issue might be ricky graduating, but we really don’t need to worry about that until s5 (🤞🏻 which I’m hoping for). The only reason you would need to worry about them not being endgame is if they weren’t the main couple. But they’ve been so strongly developed and set up to be the main couple of the show (the troyella, if you will) that it would be counterintuitive and frankly, just bad writing for Tim to split up rina forever and ever. It would completely undermine all of their growth and arcs, as well as the proof we’ve seen over and over that they work better together. They are very yin/yang because they really do make up for what the other lacks. They are two halves of a whole.
I have a feeling we’re going to be ok :)
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So, This Is Us will come to an end tonight and I am sad. I am sad because instead of feeling this way because a show I loved for years is ending, I am actually feeling incredibly relieved.
I didn't enjoy this last season at all. While I imagine that, Kevin's """love life""" aside, the show is wrapping up in an emotional way, I can't believe that in a show who had the story planned all along, for 11 episodes of its FINAL SEASON almost nothing happened and the plot barley moved on, while the rest of the final episodes were full of rushed storylines.
They developed Kevin and Madison for 11 episodes only to end their story with a montage and destroy everything they built for them until that moment. They pretended that it wasn't like Kevin was about to realise his feelings for Madison just one episode before and then they magically put Kevin and his ex wife together (a basic character we know nothing about, with zero depth and not enough screen time throughout the years) completely out of the blue, even if it didn't make sense anymore for where the characters were at that moment of their life/growth.
Like, if someone had told me that, after all the hype, I should have waited for SIX SEASONS just to see Kevin end up with the same woman he had a relationship with when he was young (and it didn't work) and then AGAIN when he was 36 years old (and it didn't work 2.0), I'd would have laughed at them!
Oh, and a reminder: this is a show that it was supposed to be realistic and the writers have always been proud of that! Like, if you indeed read the interviews post ep 6x02, you'll even read that they didn't make Nicky end up with Sally because..... It would have been unrealistic!!!
And what about Kevin's character development? What about his journey in the previous seasons and him letting go of the idea of a Hollywood type of story? What about the love of my life will be my child(ren) when the twins have been basically an accessory to his storyline? What about his career? Justin was so excited talking about his S6 storyline and nothing of what he said happened because they changed everything.
Kevin's centric episode ended with him finally finding the foundation, deciding to live a fearless life and then, a couple of episodes later, we see him going back to his S1 era and dating women after women because he lost Madison (let's be honest) and only in the end he ends up with the woman (after Cassidy declined his proposal) that was conveniently available.
I won't talk about how and the stupid reasons why they ended up together because other people already discussed this enough.
Even reading the interviews after 6x14 where they were saying that their story has already been told and that there's no time to show more of that is a real joke if you think that they had 3 YEARS in advance to think about Kevin's endgame (no but seriously, imagine to not have enough time to show your main character's love story after SIX SEASONS OF HYPE!!!), but well, it's what they deserve and I really wouldn't care about it anyway.
Isn't it funny though, that despite the show is trying to imply that "it has always been Sophie", Justin actually said that he doesn't think that it had always been her and that it would have been interesting to see Kevin end up with Madison or Cassidy? Yeah Justin, we know that!
There are many more things about our beloved Pearsons that they could have shown us (slowly and more) and yet they didn't because they wasted precious time, but this is a blog about Kevin and Madison, so I will stop here.
Anyway, @ this is us writers, thanks for making the goodbye much easier.
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Heyy coolcat! Hope you’ve been doing well! I’ve been trying to decipher the headache that is the season 2 timeline pre-heroes. When it comes to the alts, I’m pretty sure they just immediately landed in the s1 world and Alyssa just grew up there. (At least that’s what’s implied by the stories on the reddit) Which is so depressing, because she literally grows up without any other kids like at least in ruxmor she had Alva and Andor.
There’s also this one story called “Mots Log” and I have to say I like the characterization there. Now I could be misinterpreting things, but Mot sounds like he’s more sad about not being able to cut a check then he is Dianite being dead. And idk that’s a bit more interesting than him being a hopeless about his and Dianite’s relationship status.
While reading I feel like the writing contradicts itself, like I can’t figure whether jumping into the void was Spark or Ianite’s idea. Because I understand the why, which is to revive the Dianite in another realm to bring back theirs. But that feels dumb, like our heroes brought back Ruxmors Dianite with no confirmation that s1 version was back too. It feels like the alts journey was set up to fail. They have no proof that that idea would’ve worked anyways.
The thing is, I really enjoy putting a story together based on clues and information and the like. I thinks it’s fun. But when the writing is working against itself it’s just nauseating, ya know?
Here’s the link if you wanna read em too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRealmOfMianite/search?q=flair_name%3A"Official%20Lore"&restrict_sr=1&page=0&type=link&sort=new&before=t3_31a5qm
So, when it comes to the heroes landing in the Season 1 world and then just spending 10 years there, I have no doubt that that is the canonical answer. However, as with everything in Season 2, this brings up some questions namely: If the alts immediately landed in the Season One world, why don't Wag and Champwan know who they should have been in the Season 1 world when the alts arrived. Like, obviously irl this is because the writers didn't know right from episode 1 that the alts were gonna be in the season 1 world (or I assume knew they were gonna exist at all). And even if they did, they likely wouldn't have given any of the streamers info for the story, even if they should have known it. Though I'll be honest, I don't know if they thought about much about the Season 1 world side of the story at all, evidenced by the fact that Skipper Redbeard disappears into not existing despite being like one of 3 alive NPCs from the end of Season 1.
I definitely haven't read the old reddit lore for a while, but I am not surprised that Mot has some bouncy characterization since like he is both the person raised by Dianite to be the man he is today, and also the man who is in love with Dianite. Honestly I kind of like the idea of him being more cold than a hopeless romantic, I think it's just a more interesting Champion/God relationship to have them kinda be purely business.
I'd say that it makes more sense for the jumping into the void to be Spark's idea, as I think it makes more sense for Ianite's reaction to him being gone being so extreme if he also did something she didn't want him to do. Maybe it being Ianite's idea was some earlier writing to tie it more into the Season 1 finale, make more links between world? I remember the idea that they wanted to bring back Ruxomar Dianite via Season 1 Dianite, which seemed like a good idea until it became really clear that the deaths across alts don't work like that. Like Wag doesn't die when Steve does, I don't think Season 1 Ianite dies when Ruxomar Ianite does, and as you've pointed out they do just revive Ruxomar Dianite without needing to check that the Season 1 guy is now alive and kicking again.
Honestly, I totally know what you mean. Season 2 feels like they wanted to make the story bigger, but didn't want to plan ahead. It kind of means that the story from the start of the season has a lot of information that contridicts the story at the end of the season. And all of this is not really helped by the fact that they definitely shaped the story about what people thought was going to happen. Like I remember when Season 2 was going I saw a thread in reddit that was just: Random Commenter: "I bet Ianita is just never gonna get brought up again." Writer: "Oh we'll see about that." And then Ianita became literally one of the most important plot points. Like just, yeah, the Season 2 writing is kind of nuts and I haven't even tried to look into it in detail.
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hiya. wanted to pop in after i read ur rant post, i hope that's ok.
i agree with what you've said, and personally for me, after i knew That had happened, what had kept me sane was that deep down, i knew carlos would never do this, it is so out of left field, and this is just a shitty plot point the writers pulled out their asses in the s4 writers room (if they kept insisting that they thought of this since s1, they're going to have to try harder, and even then, i'm not sure i would believe them.) for the sake of drama. they know having a wedding planning arc throughout this season doesn't make for good drama, so what do they do? add in this shitty plot to impede their wedding planning.
what really kills me is, in the process of this, it might have undermined carlos' entire character arc in the previous seasons. it really hurts. i don't hate him at all, i understand completely where he's coming from. what i hate is carlos' as a character (in canon at least) suffers as a direct result of the showrunner and writers' shitty plotting and writing (i think this post makes a damn good point of what i'm trying to say,) and i hate how there's nothing we can do in the face of this. i feel helpless, and it hurts to see them go down this route for the sake of 'good drama', whatever the hell they think it means. clearly the writers and the fandom as a whole have wildly different understanding of things, as clearly shown in the interviews they've done so far.
which is why, i'm willing to wait it out and see how this unfolds, even though from the snippets i've read re: the upcoming eps, i think it will piss me off and probably the fandom as a whole. at the end of the day, as the eps start airing and we slowly move past it, i think we can easily choose to take away whatever we want to from this arc, and shove the rest down in a deep, deep drawer where i personally would never revisit again.
it just really sucks for now bc we only have one ep of information to work with, and 5-6 more days to wait until the next ep. i really do appreciate posts of ppl reminding us of how they've handled previous bad arcs (tk relapsing, the breakup, gwyn's death, etc., you get the drill) that have turned out to be phenomenal in hindsight, and i'm clinging to this until the eps start airing, and we get a more coherent picture. until then, we only have each other to discuss and perhaps rant to, to try to make sense of it all.
sorry for the rant, and thank u for reading this all the way through. sending u love in the meantime, and i know we'll get through this with time.
anon i mean this with everything in my body and soul and heart.
you summed it up perfectly.
we know it’s a bad plot, and we know we will move past it, and i really think the thing that hurts the most is it does really taint their entire story so far, knowing he had this all along, but i am hoping and praying that we get more, better plot in the next few episodes, and hopefully we can shove this down and forget it ever existed.
the disconnect between these writers and the fandom is insane, though. that’s what’s getting me. it’s like tim genuinely likes making us upset. remember when his twitter handle was cancelledagain? it’s like he doesn’t care about his own show, and the real drama for him is watching us all react and hate him for the plots he pulls out of his ass.
it’s so out of left field, and it fucks with everything we’ve known so far, and that’s why i see a bunch of people giving up on this plot and show, because it feels like we have been lied to the past few years as well.
even though we haven’t. it wasn’t the truth until he sat down and wrote it in. it’s fucking dumb, and surviving on 43 minutes a week with a plot like this is exhausting.
thank you so much. please never hesitate to dm me, anon. this ask was so very appreciated.
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shadowsong26fic · 2 years
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Coming Attractions
I feel like it’s been A While since I did one of these, haha...
As always, along with the Coming Attractions, we’ll do an Open Question Night! My askbox is always open, but tonight I’ll be keeping at least a semi-active eye on it, answering questions. Any fandom I’ve posted about here or on AO3 is fair game; questions about writing in general; etc.
Also, my writing discord does exist! It’s a pretty quiet place, but it’s at least intended to be a slightly more interactive extension of this blog.
A fairly short update this month; I don’t have all that much to report, unfortunately...
Star Wars:
Big bang has been completed and posted at last! I don’t know that it’s my best work, but I am proud of how the fight scenes turned out, at least.
It was kind of like pulling teeth all season to get this one done, though. Hopefully next year will be easier! I don’t really have a solid plan, other than vague notions of doing a BSG crossover, since that’s where a lot of my brain is now, lol.
Protectors and Preludes updates are coming, I swear, it’s just been slow. Hoping the Obi-Wan show will kick my butt into gear, even though I’m well past that point in my timeline!
Castlevania:
I finally actually started posting Incinctus! It’s a fun piece, and while I do have at least one other plot thread floating in my mind for future writing, we’ll see how this one goes first. My plan is to update weekly, on Mondays. This plan will probably hold up until I run out of steam and pre-written material XD ((There’s a little bit of an Easter Egg in this week’s chapter that I found amusing; we’ll see if anyone actually picks up on it.))
Battlestar Galactica:
I have started my rewatch at last! I’ve powered through S1 (and put my notes, apart from the fic-related stuff, up on my personal tumblr if you’re curious XD); I may skip around after the Pegasus arc and get Razor in then. I’ve been note-taking both for my personal delight and for plot purposes for The Other Battlestar (which does need a better name...the only thing I’ve come up with so far, though, is a play on Bellerophon which I like even less, lol). The biggest plotholes I have so far are outing Doral and the tylium mine episode; I think I have a workaround for the mine, but I’m still playing with it. I’d forgotten how much Outright BSing was involved in flagging Doral as a Cylon...
((If y’all haven’t been following these, The Other Battlestar is an AU where Baltar ends up on Pegasus instead of Galactica; in order for the main fleet to be in roughly the same position when things reconnect after six months, I have two OCs filling in for his canon role. The politics stuff is easy, I just need to finish building the character in question. Some of the science stuff is...a little shakier, lol. I’m also having fun fleshing out a few additional Pegasus crew members to talk to, and considering where to line up Key Events for Maximum Impact, but that might change depending on how much of a concrete timeline Razor gives me.))
Anyway, I’ll probably start posting that this summer, once I have a decent amount of text prepped and also have figured out how I want to structure it (there’s miniseries stuff I do need to cover, but how much time do I want to spend on that; how do I balance between the Galactica and Pegasus threads, etc.)
Other Fandom Stuff:
I signed up for pod_together again! I had a lot of fun last year, and I’m hoping I get a good partner again this year! We’ll see how that goes--matches are sent out this weekend, I think.
Original Stuff:
Nothing really to report on this end other than I really do need to get back to actual Writing again...and also I keep buying miscellaneous Arthuriana things at library booksales but not actually sitting down to read them to plot out that one Arthuriana story I want to tell. And there’s a couple historical fiction pieces, one of which has been in the works for a solid fifteen years but I keep wandering away from the research for it, lol...
Anyway, Hopefully I’ll have a more “I Did Stuff!” update next month! But that’s about where things stand for me now.
What about you guys? What are you working on? And, again, Open Question Night--I’d love to hear from you! What’s on your mind?
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