If someone derails your conversation about Israel to be about Israel's treatment of this or that group, Mizrachim, Beta Israel, etc. you may just want to consider their motivations, and do a little digging into the kinds of subjects they normally talk about on their own blogs.

If someone who has staunchly antizionist views, like I'm talking thinly veiled genocidal fantasies about destroying Israel and reveling in the chaos that would bring, and having no concern for the future of 7 millions Jews, their concerns about Medinat Yisrael's treatment of minority groups are not valid.

This is Concern Trolling.

If someone is derailing you to accuse Israel, through accusing you, of sterilizing Ethiopian women, stealing Mizrachi babies and having them raised by "white" parents, trying to destroy Yiddish, all these alleged violent assimilationist policies that Israel employs against fellow Jews?

A non Jew barging into your space and bringing up intra-community issues and grievances is a red flag. Do not fall for the sealioning trap. Do not turn out your pockets. Do not fall for the concern trolling.

Because what is their solution to these problems? To eliminate Israel as a state? And what about these minority groups within Israeli society then? Their answer is the same as their answer for the Ashkenazim: who cares? They largely imagine all Israeli Jews can simply move to the United States or France or something. The fact that over 95% of Israelis cannot just go to the countries of their parents or grandparents is of no concern to them.

That's why it's concern trolling. They're trolling you by pretending to be concerned, and baiting you into discussing an intra-community issue because they think that'll be the argument that finally gets you to disavow Israel. Because now you'll have no choice but to agree Israel is irredeemably problematic, because now it affects other Jews. So they are exhibiting a kind of bitterly envious brand of antisemitism. They think that all Jews believe in Jewish supremacy. They're quite mad about it. This is an aspect of the Chosen People canard.

But the main reason concern trolling is bad is because they don't care about these groups they bring up. They're not defending them, they're not championing their rights. They're trying to distract you and make you look like a hypocrite. When they cheer for Hamas raping and pillaging and spraying bullets into Israelis, they don't care if it happens to Beta Israel women who've supposedly been mass sterilized against their will. They cheer all the same. So much for their legitimate concerns that Israel is antisemitic in of itself I guess?

If the solution to a problem faced by a minority group within a country is "destroy their country which they also believe has saved them from ethnic cleansing and mass death, and figure out the rest later," you're not an ally to that group; stop pretending you are!

This is tied into pinkwashing, but from a sort of opposite approach. If any societal progress that Israel makes for minority groups is a psyop and a marketing ploy to cover up Palestinian Genocide, the concern trolling is antizionists holding Israel hostage to any societal progress it has not made. But they never intend on letting Israel improve these relationships. Israel is too nice to gay Jews, and not nice enough to African Jews. The only course of action therefore, is to let Hamas butcher them alongside straight Jews and "European" Jews.

So if you see someone trying to engage in this game, ignore them! Your time is worth so much more, and the vulnerable minority groups of Jews (both in Israel and the Diaspora) are much safer with Jews who discriminate against them than goyim who tout social justice rhetoric but want to see them dead. Plus, so many Jews are already doing the work, learning and listening, and trying to improve. This enrages the concern trolls like nothing else.

Call out Israel's bigotries, but you know, maybe don't trust the people who aren't affected by those bigotries invading your space and demanding your allyship to groups of people they'd be content seeing die en masse. Like "Israel is actually antisemitic against this vulnerable group of Jews!" and "All Israelis are settlers, none are truly civilians, and any form of violence against settlers is justified" are two stances that do not mesh very well...

Because at the very least, they're separating good Jews from bad Jews again, just based on what they perceive intra-Jewish oppression to be like. And they expect these good Jews to cheer and happily live as dhimmis in the absolute chaos that is a 100% inevitable Hamas-Fatah civil war and total societal collapse... and spit on the graves of their kinsmen.

And at worst, the concern trolls won't bother distinguishing these vulnerable Jews from their alleged oppressors anyway, and happily watch as they all flee with the clothes on their backs or get gunned down or enslaved by Hamas "Resistance" Fighters.

These are the first three comments on a short fat positive video. All of the replies agree with them, and all the other comments on the video are like this.

The YouTube channel is for a fat person who regularly posts very short fat positive videos. I cannot imagine how much strength it takes to continue posting fat positive content while receiving massive amounts of harassment and hatred every day, especially since YouTube is probably in the top two spots for most fatphobic social media website along with Reddit (I don't even want to imagine 4chan's fatphobia). When I tried to defend this person in their comments on a single video a month ago, it was fighting a losing battle from the start. The amount of harassment and bigotry this person endures just for existing on YouTube is immense. I don't know if I've ever met someone so strong. Fellow fat people really are brave. Not for having the "confidence" to exist like thin people often say as backhanded insults, but because we endure so much abuse every day and still live our lives while giving fatphobes the middle finger.

-Mod Worthy

[EDIT] This person has apologized; they were unclear about the context of the original Anonymous Ask I received and did not realize that Anon was being transphobic. I'm turning off reblogs since I don't want anyone to accidentally dogpile this user because they don't see this edit.

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I can't see your reply on my post (Link) and I can't seem to tag you.

Have you heard of the term "concern trolling"? Have you heard of the "compassion" Christians have when they're trying to pray for and convert gay people into straight people? What about the "concern" of Scientologists when they lock people in rooms and force them off psych meds? What about the "concern" doctors had when they gave healthy women lobotomies just because those women were "misbehaving"?

"Compassion" is not what these people have. It is bigotry masquerading as "concern".

Secondly, I am not hurting myself. Transition is not harm.

It is not "compassion" for a TERF to wring her hands and pretend she gives a shit what's gonna happen to my body on T. The fact that she wants me to remain a fertile feminine female who can give birth to widdle babies is actually, in fact, fucking horrific, not "compassionate". She is not listing these changes with a sense of concern, she is listing them with a sense of disgust and revulsion. She is disgusted by what I will become, because she is a bigot.

Fuck the "compassion" of bigots.

It's true that skin cancer and even sunburn is really bad, but as a person of colour, I get told by white people who are tanning that I especially need sunblock because 'tanning is so evil' 'pale is ghe new tanned' ect.

I'm Romani, When I'm tanned, I look really Indian/Middle Eastern/Something not white, when I'm not, I could pass for Irish/Scottish/whatever.

I think it's really telling that people who go dark/not white looking when they're tanned are the ones told not to tan, by people who are tanning.

First of all, I'm really sorry you have to deal with that sort of concern-trolling and hypocrisy. That sounds absolutely appalling.

Secondly, yes, that's a very important point. Like many objectively good things, sun protection and the conversation around it can unfortunately be leveraged in support of really horrible viewpoints- in this case, racism. Which does make looking at the context of the message and who is giving it to whom, important.

Sun protection is a wise health measure to take, no matter your skin tone- because yes, dark-skinned people can get sun damage and skin cancer, too. But the reason for taking that measure is NEVER because one skin tone is "better" than another.

(And frankly, as a very pale white woman with a pretty vigilant sun protection routine, I get told that I should tan all the time. By intentionally/unnaturally tanned white people. This makes me wonder what they might be saying to PoC on the other side of things.)

Thank you for sharing your story, Anon; I really appreciate it.

Fear of Trans Bodies

concern trolling as a rhetorical device in legislative debates should be banned. for wasting everyone’s fucking time

Except when you have a heart attack…

Concern trolling

Concern trolling is basically when you pretend to care about an issue in order to undermine and derail any measures that would be taken to address the actual, underlying problem that’s affecting society. Instead, it’s a tactic that’s used to:

trigger infighting among the groups/people who are actively working on the true problem,

reframe the argument to try and take power away from an actual, effective movement,

and to flood the public discussion with noise and distraction, often with tremendous success.

This is a particularly fruitful tactic when the seeds of fear are already present, as it’s extremely easy to take an already fearful (sometimes, justifiably so) group and point them toward an imagined boogeyman, causing them to attack and fixate on a completely extraneous, possibly even non-existent, problem instead.

via https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/concern-trolling/

One thing you like to do when you get enough followers is concern-trolling. While this is nothing compared to your whopper last September, which we will get to another time, you often post things to get attention, wanting people to build you up and sing your praises. You LIVE for online validation.

You have a history of doing this. Here are two more examples.

You love posting this stuff som people swarm to you and say how they need you to stay online and they would miss you sooooo much if you left.

This is manipulative.

November 21, 2022

This took waaaay longer than it looks…. Ha 🥹

Annalise: clearly disillusioned by the entire AA process and begging for some sort of guidance having outlined a valid critique of trauma porn

rando: “have you tried meditation?”

I hate this stupid picture SO MUCH

I see it posted EVERYWHERE online and it’s always full of comments praising it and it just fills me with rage. Everything about this image is a terrible idea. Fuck this thing.

Post-prison hangout

Please help me. My militant, bootlicking sister did a report on Ob*sity in this country and she is showing obvious fatphobia, and I told her about the origins of the BMI system, and she said "I don't support Eugenics, I just want people to have healthier bodies and improved lifestyles!!!"

That is LITERALLY the definition of eugenics.

How can I convince her that she did a school project on why she hates fat people?

The very first post I saw on your blog is in support of a trans person who was harassed by trolls, and yet here you are sending troll messages to another oppressed group.

Despite your troll message being both fatphobic and ableist, despite fatphobia having an immense amount of intersectionality with transphobia (you know, the group you supposedly care about), you'd rather spend your miserable life doing exactly what transphobic trolls do to trans people. It's just okay when you do it because your definition of "equality" comes with asterisks.

Get a life that actually has any sort of value or meaning. Because being a pathetic, bigoted hypocrite ain't it.

-Mod Worthy

With how dangerous binding and tucking can be, it's wild to me that in so many ways, the onus of having your basic humanity respected often hinges on ensuring that you do whatever you can to minimize your body. And it's extra wild when you're told how nobody will respect you, but I have had plenty of interactions with (just to name a couple of examples) men who don't bind and women who don't pack, and it's actually so easy to engage with them without laser-focusing on their body.

I was always told that respect hinges on earning it - a trans person earns respect (see: people almost begrudgingly seeing and/or affirming who they are) when we prove ourselves. As a kid, I didn't have the financial or familial support to bind, so I used bandages. Like, I remember leaving class to take them off because I was in so much pain, and it just makes me think that there is a whole lot of difference between the workloads of trans people and certain others. I don't think putting my body in physical risk like that is the same mental and physical workload as... using a name, using pronouns, seeing the person and who they are.