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while i have my criticisms about amphibia, one thing i do like about the show is how they handle sasha as a character after her redemption arc. now, her redemption arc was not entirely satisfactory since it mostly takes place off-screen but i like how they didn’t erase her entire personality in order for her to be one of the good guys. both the shows i’ve talked about here before are on either end of a spectrum.
catra just.. doesn’t change at all. she doesn’t work on or even acknowledge her abusive tendencies, she doesn’t really mean her apologies, and she’s just the same shitty person except that she’s no longer working for the horde. because.. the horde no longer exists and horde prime has made it clear that he doesn’t want her. so she’s basically tagging along with the heroes because she has no other choice, and still being a bitch to everyone.
the owl house, on the other hand, changes all of its redeemed characters DRASTICALLY. amity, lilith and hunter are all stripped of their personalities as soon as they become good. amity used to be a snobby high achiever with an abusive mother and a neglectful father? she is luz’s awkward nerdy girlfriend now. lilith used to be part of a cult and resorted to violence and problematic acts to get her way? she is luz’s awkward nerdy aunt and eda’s awkward nerdy sister now. hunter used to be sassy and pessimistic, and an intensely traumatized child who just discovered some really life-shattering truths about his existence and also lost his best friend? doesn’t matter, he is willow’s awkward nerdy bf now. see a pattern here?
amphibia, on the other hand, strikes a good balance with sasha. we see that sasha is clearly guilty about her actions and is actively trying to make amends for everything she did (instead of making insensitive jokes and blaming people for her own actions like someone *cough*), but she has retained her personality at the same time. she’s still sarcastic and a rational thinker, she’s still bossy when she needed to be, she’s still good at making plans and solving problems. not to mention, they actually reframe her toxic characteristics into more positive ones, like her leadership skills actually being used for good, instead of being used to control and manipulate people.
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spopsalt · 21 hours
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friend, recently i came up with something that actually will blow up your mind after this:
C*tra stans, apart of being the most toxic person in the word, they are pedophiles ( for simping over a teenager ), zoophile ( simping over a cat that it's an animal ) and supports abusive relationships and promote abuse. Like they always said that " adults are smarter than kids because they know more better " but do they actually know what is be a redflag and a abusive person ? noooOOOooooooo. They keep deffending C*tr* as if she was an angel who did nothing. For example imagine that etheria is palestain and the horde is israel, C*tra stans deffend C*tra and are on the horde side that would mean that they deffend genocide because in this case israel attack palestain people and catra attcak etherian people i honestly find so hypocrite that catra stans deffend palestine when they deffend a genocide woman who killed and hurt innocent people.
Wow. Ok. So, I would like to politely disagree, a lot of them don't know that Catra is a teenager, a lot of people see Catra more like a furry than an actual animal, don't know that it's abusive and are in denial, and I don't wanna imply I know what they think about real war because of what they think of fiction.
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just leaving this here.
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Tonight on The C//A Shipper Mental Gymnastics Show
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sealnoodlesoup · 1 month
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My stupid opinion that will get me killed by the entire She-Ra fandom
Shadow Weaver had a better redemption arc than C4tra
Yes, I know that Shadow wasn't fully redeemed, was terrible, and never apologized for her actions. But at least she was useful and helped the rebellion, unlike C4tra who was just getting in everyone's way. Shadow had many chances to betray the rebellion but she didn't meanwhile C4tra (who committed more and worse crimes than Shadow) would probably betray them all if someone offered her greater power because she only joined the rebellion when it was her only chance of survival despite being offered to join them many times before. And while C4tra did say she was sorry she never properly apologized for everything she did (like killing Angela and almost destroying the universe) and her apology always felt like she was just trying to earn sympathy from others. And she continued treating everyone horribly even after that. Shadow Weaver stayed loyal to the rebellion until the very end and even died for them, I know many people say that she only killed herself to traumatize C4tra, but the only proof of that they have is the "You're welcome" and it still can be argued what she meant by that (In my opinion it was "You're Welcome, now that I'm dead I won't bother you anymore" I'm not gonna explain why I think that here because this post is not about that). Shadow was the one who found a way to stop Horde Prime and did everything to make sure it worked, meanwhile, C4tra was being a nuisance and a distraction just so she could be with Adora and didn't care that the world might get destroyed because of it. She tried to stop Adora from taking the failsafe even though Adora was the only person who could survive it and got angry when Adora chose to save the world first instead of making out with her. Just to be clear I'm not talking about who was a morally better person, but who made up for their actions more.
In conclusion: Actions speak louder than words, Shadow Weaver was useful to the rebellion while C4tra was not.
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stanlunter · 2 months
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Glimmadora antis be Like: "would you like to be shipped with your best friend, while ur already in relationship with someone else?"
But would YOU like ito be shipped with your adoptive sibling who has been abusing you since childhood, hurt you both mentally and physically, kidnapped your friends and tried to kill you multipe times?
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cloudgossip79 · 3 months
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Please don't attack this person.
Can C//A stop insulting Glimdora? Please???
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x0l0tl99 · 4 months
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just a reminder to critical fandoms calling people who are fans of problematic content unworthy of human rights is a shit move btw.
their still a fucking human being.
expecting everyone to know everything every creator has done ever and enjoy everything critically is insane. Nobody has the time or energy for that.
and even if they stan problematic content willingly, their still humans
stars above some of y'all are more toxic then the things you fight against
this is not for people who are members of critical fandoms and dont do this btw. y'all are great sparkle on
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say what you will but i refuse to be shamed for liking a “vanilla” ship by a bunch of people who romanticize abuse and sexualize teenagers.
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spopsalt · 2 days
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Found this pic a while back. And… yeah. Same here. Sure wish we some some answers. Worst part is that this isn’t even HALF of the questions I’m left with.
Yeah, sadly none of them are answered, with Catra they literally just found her IN A BOX, ohhh wowwww what a gooooood choiceee, I feel bad for all the people who made theories about where Catra came from and just found out she was left in a box.
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glimmadora appreciation post!
i can't believe they weren't a canon couple. like PLEASE LOOK AT THESE.
(I don't know if this expression exists outside of Brazil, but it's like they say: "they had the knife and the cheese in their hands and didn't do anything with it".)
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there's a lot more moments i could add (including the hot springs scene), but tumblr has that limit of 10 images per post.
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thats-ill-eagle · 5 months
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So, my youtube sometimes breaks and instead of the intended thumbnail, it shows me a random shot from the actual video. As a result, when I was browsing through SPOP content yesterday, I was unexpectedly blessed by this gem
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(This is not a prieview btw, it literally showed me this Glimmadora shot as a thumbnail, instead of the intended one, which, if I remember correctly, is C*tra and Adora touching foreheads.)
Even Youtube knows C///A is not worth looking at and that Glimmadora is superior lmao
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sealnoodlesoup · 2 months
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I can't believe spop fans call 80s she-ra garbage. It's one thing to prefer the new one over the original, but saying that it's garbage and the new one is objectively better is insane. I also used to think the old one was thrash until I watched it and realised it's a decent show. They say the new one is better because it added representation or something, but what did you expect from a 1980s cartoon? And it wasn't even that bad there were some POC characters (they were rare, but not completely non-existent), as for gay representation watch episode 10 (you can find the series on YouTube), skip to 5:32, and watch until 6:20. I hate how the reboot fans have no respect for the original even though their show wouldn't exist without it.
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stanlunter · 26 days
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I'm kinda curious why you don't like catradora? Is it just not your thing or do you have reasons? Just kinda curious as I almost always only see the "they were enemies! And that makes it too toxic!" But I saw you like catra/glimmer so yeah, just curious as someone who personally likes it but also hasn't watched the show in ages
Thank you for your question
Yeah, I do hate it, mb not its fans (or at least not all of them, cuz most of them are actually super annoying, but anyways) tho. Also sorry for my bad English
As for the reasons, there are actually many reasons:
Starting with, like you said
1. Being toxic. But the difference with Glitra is that in their way It's not like Catra abuses Glimmer, no, they hate each other mutually, there ia no "abuser x victim" dynamic, bc they hurt each other mutually. Also there are no manipulations, guilt-trips, gaslighting and etc, they are completely honest with each other. While with Adora, their dynamic is rather "abuser x victim" than "enemies to lovers" bc Adora never wanted to hurt Catra, she was always only ensuring what Catra's doing and saying. Adora was always holding back, never tried to kill Catra or make her feel like nothing or hate herself and all her fights were litterally either self-defense or defense of her friends or other people who were attacked by Catra. While Catra always tried to hurt Adora, both mentally and physically, tried to kill her many times, tried to make her hate herself and etc, etc. She was the reason why Adora had such a strong hero complex and always wanted to sacrafice herself. Adora litterally had panic attacks bc of Catra. And the whole "it was a war" argument doesn't work here bc being a war criminal doesn't make Catra any better and bc Catra was toxic to Adora even when they were on the same side. She was always jealous, controlling, possesive and didn't want Adora to have other friends. She wanted Adora to belong to her, which was shown many times. Also she physically hurt her many times, gaslighted her and etc. So their relationship would be much more abusive than Glitra relationship. And what makes it even worse is that Catra has learnt all her abusive traits from SW - recognized Adora's abuser. Catra litterally copies everything the main abuser who has traumatized Adora in the forefront does, which is actually creepy af too. Even she tortures Adora in s4 she says that she took the idea from SW. So she just takes the abuse she (and Adora) has been throught and intentionally uses it against Adora
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Even if you have a kink for abusive ship, you should write them well and not put them in a kid show, normalizing abuse by this. There are examples of good enemies to lovers in kid shows which aren't abusive and It's fine (like Dipper/Pacifica, Talon/Penny, Bubblegum/Marcelin kinda, Amaya and Janai (It's good and It's wlw too), even Glimmadora would work since they were enemies too and etc).
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2. The whole being "basically adoptive sisters" thing. They aren't actual sisters, but they were actually implied to be so. I won’t even mention every time the CREW referred to them this way (however, there were many times), but the main problem is that their whole relationship is fully based on the "Skapegoat & Golden child" dynamic. And SW is a mother figure who loves one child and hates the other one, who always tries to earn her love and jealous and hate the favourite child. Some people say SW was just a teacher and not a mom figure, but it would be a lie at least bc 1. The crew has stated SW as a mother figure, so It's canon anyways 2. It was said by Adora that SW was like a mother to her 3. You don't try to earn your teacher's LOVE like Catra does 4. The whole thing that SW sees herself in Catra and wanted fulfil her ambitions throught Adora. Also SW wasn't a mother figure for other cadets, it wasn't actually her duty to teach Lonnie, Kyle, Rogelio and others. She was a right hand, not a teacher and she was there only for Adora bc she decided so and for Catra bc Adora wanted so. So, even if you're trying to ignore it, It's a huge part of the plot and a base of their relationship. Oddly enough, but many catradora shippers actually love to admit that "SW was a bad abusive mother", "Catra & Adora have mommy issues", "Adora is a favourite child" and etc, yet when you point it out, they start denying it. I find it strange.
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Another thing is subjective, just my personal vision, but I highly dislike all "childhood friends" ships (mb with exceptions if they always actually had feelings for each other, but in catradora case we find out about it only later, especially from Adora's perspectice). Also there is a biological theory that if kids know each other since the age under 6, they see each other as siblings anyways, especially if they grow up together in the same house, especially with the sams parent figure. So, even tho it's subjective, It's an important reason to ms. And I actually did thought of them so and thought everyone does untill I joined the fandom. So even if I don't recognize "see each other as siblings" thing when it comes to usual friends who haven't been grown up together, I do with those who have. Flr example, Renora. This ship was always weird to me and when they become canon, it didn't make me love it. I don't think It's problematic, but it absolutely does make me feel uncomfortable. Like, if you haven't developed your feelings for each other for during these 10 years you were together, where are the feelings suppose to come from later?
But yeah, childhood friends thing is my subjective reason
3. Catra's redemption arc was horrible. And redemption arc is one of the most important things when it comes to enemies-to-lovers, since It's the thing that suppose to help them become canon. Everyone immidiatly has to forgive Catra and no one calls Catra out for what she has done. Even Glimmer, who's mom was killed bc of Catra or Adora who has been abused by Catra for years. And so Catra doesn't even actually changes. She just swaps sides and immidiatly becomes Adora's gf. That's the problem. If you write enemies-to-lovers, do it well
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4. The whole way the shis was handled. It just doesn't make sense and completely ruins the whole development of almost all characters. Adora's development is getting destroyed and she just comes back to s1 Adora. Her whole arc was about stopping blaming herself for Catra's actions, separating from her abusers and getting a life. But she just ends up forgiving Catra and considering Catra a victim of herself. And starts blaming herself for "leaving" Catra again. They just forget everything they've been throught. And what about Catra? Catra was obsessed the whole time. She hated Adora and liked hurting her. Catra was litterally addictive to Adora. It wasn't love, it was possesion. And giving an addict a drug isn't a way to go. Catra should separated from Adora, learn how to live without the idea of being "either with her, or againt her". That's why I think her leaving the Horde with Scorpia and going to a Crimson waste would be the best happy ending for her. She would get a life, get what she wanted (being loved), what she needed and what she deserved and let her issues go. So they just aren't good for each other. Having Adora around was always hurting Catra, Catra never was able to fully show herself when Adora was with her in the Horde and she even saya that Adora leaving gave her a chance to fulfil her actual potential, so Adora leaving was the best thing happened to her. Even if Catra wasn't fully agree with her own words, it was basically truth, bc Catra actually did feel bad bc of Adora when they were together (it wasn't Adora's fault, but still). Catra was always blaming Adora for her problems and didn't stop even in s5. So It was bad not only for Adora, but for Catra as well
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Also Adora never even loved Catra before. If Catra's possesion can be called love at some point, it doesn't work this way with Adora. Yeah, Adora cared about Catra as a friend, but DT was right, Adora didn't need Catra. She didn't have such big problems with letting Catra go. After s1 she forgot Catra and never recalled her as a friend, only as an enemy. So her whole "I love you too" thing just came out of nowhere and was a lie. Just like "I never hated her" bc Adora did and it was shown. Adora got new friends who care about her and getting Catra was absolutely unnecessary for her. It doesn't work even as a Stockholm Syndrome or a trauma bond, bc it was never shown and Adora got a development
Actually, if it did make sense, mb I would like it, but unfortunately it really doesn't and only ruines everything the show has been building for years, which is sad, cuz I used to love both Catra and Adora
It's also strange to me how shippers compare catradora to so many actually good wlw couples like Korrasami, Harlivy, Caitvy, Lumity, Bumbleby, Chaggie and etc, while in reality their relationship is much closer to Tauradonna (which is actually hated by Bumbleby shippers, which is ironic) and Citrus and actually Shin Soukoku and Simon/Grace, or even some actual/ almost actual siblings like Vi/Jinx, Zuko/Azula, Rapunzel/Cassandra, Claudia/Soren, Qrow/Raven, Maki/Mai, Nightwing/Red hood, Thor/Loki, White queen/ Red queen and etc.
But I would prefer to compare it to Shin Soukoku tho
So, these are the main reasons. Actually I don't understand why can't catradora shippers just admit that their ship is problematic and enjoy it as it is, bc it doesn't really make sense to just make ship a full ooc and make it romantic and sweet to like it, bc it litterally goes against the whole point and everything it always has been. So I have a big respect for those shippers who do admit the problems and enjoy it without lying to themselves and gaslighting others tbh
Anyways, thanks for a question, it was actually interesting to answer it and you can feel free to asnwer, desagree or agree, Im not a hater or smth
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terrabdectyle · 2 months
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cloudgossip79 · 3 months
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OMG I JUST SAW THE PERFUMA AND SCORPIA POST ABOUT LEASHING ENTRAPTA
Don't get me wrong, the art is wonderful. It's better than anything I would ever draw, but 👏ableism👏isn't👏funny👏
We need stop acting like leashing an autistic individual 📢especially an adult📢 is ok, resonable, even funny
Also, the reblogs were very gross no one brought up how gross leashing Entrapta is just 🥺omg cute couple stuff🥺
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